Talk:Fort Detroit

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Where did the French Settlers come from? From where did they first travel from, to Detroit.

The French came largely from Canada.

Travel at that time was by canoe. On June 5, 1701, Cadillac’s expedition consisting of 25 long canoes and 100 Frenchmen, set out from La Chine, on the St. Lawrence River, near Montreal. The expedition followed the northern route along the Ottawa River, Lake Nipissing, French River, Georgian Bay, Lake Huron, the St. Clair River, Lake St. Clair and finally the Detroit River. The expedition camped on Grosse Ile on July 23rd. The following day, the expedition rowed upstream and selected a location for the new settlement on a high bluff on the northern shore where they could control the river.
Nwbeeson 18:15, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

If the fort was presumably destroyed by fire in 1805, then how did Issac Brock capture it in 1812? —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 00:41, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

They seem to have been two different forts referred to with the same name. The original Fort Detroit was abandoned in 1779 for a new one named Fort Lernoult. The Jay Treaty ceded Fort Lernoult to the Americans in 1796, when it was renamed Fort Shelby. The name was unpopular and the fort continued to be commonly referred to as Fort Detroit. The Fort Detroit of the War of 1812 is actually Fort Lernoult/Shelby. Relevant sources: [1], [2], [3], Fort Wayne (Detroit). I'm not sure whether this is better described through one article or two. My sense is two articles, since they refer to two different physical locations. But I may add some of the explanatory information here and wait to split off a second article later, since there are lots of War of 1812-related links to this article. -Sarcasmboy 10:11, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

To-Do: Fix Fort Lernoult/Fort Shelby references[edit]

As discussed above, I have added an article on Fort Shelby (Michigan), which was previously called Fort Lernoult and commonly referred to as Fort Detroit during the War of 1812 (although sources vary on whether or not this was ever its official name). As a result, I think a number of pages that link to this article really should be redirected to Fort Lernoult; references dating after September 1813 should refer to Fort Shelby. I will make these changes as time permits, but more help would be welcome... -Sarcasmboy 03:12, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Tag & Assess 2008[edit]

Article reassessed and graded as start class. --dashiellx (talk) 13:13, 29 April 2008 (UTC)


The coordinates currently (3/22/2011) posted are those of a suburb of Montreal. Dsh6640 (talk) 19:29, 22 March 2011 (UTC)