Talk:Freedom Church

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Removal of the 'Funding' section

I've removed the following funding section from the article:

Although the majority of the church's income is given by people who are part of the church, "a proportion" comes from its partnership with NewSpring Church. NewSpring Church supports Freedom Church with missions, church planting and organisational development,^[1] and Freedom Church pay 10% of its income as a tithe to NewSpring Church.^[2]

The Newspring Church church reference doesn't seem to reflect the current situation^[3] and a Church receiving income from people in the church is hardly noteworthy.

This could be moved to the history section if anyone wants to write it?

PandaWent (talk) 16:18, 26 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Looking at archived versions of the references on the WayBack Machine, it seems as though information in question was removed relatively recently.^[4]^[5] --81.103.238.198 (talk) 11:32, 3 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

True, I might put it in the History section at some point PandaWent (talk) 14:24, 3 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Edit: Seen you've already done that. I've edited to reflect that giving to NewSpring church is historical rather than current. PandaWent (talk) 14:48, 3 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ "How is Freedom Church funded? | Freedom Church". Retrieved 4 June 2020.
^ "Does Freedom Church give money to other causes or organisations? | Freedom Church". Retrieved 4 June 2020.
^ "Trustee's report 2015 - 2016" (PDF). eauk.org.cc. Retrieved 25 June 2020. Freedom Church Hereford CIO has been receiving financial support for a number of years from NewSpring Church (South Carolina, USA). As anticipated, and by mutual agreement, this support came to an end in December 2017
^ "How is Freedom Church funded? | Freedom Church". Archived from the original on 9 June 2020.{{cite web}}: CS1 maint: unfit URL (link)
^ "Does Freedom Church give money to other causes or organisations? | Freedom Church". Archived from the original on 9 June 2020.{{cite web}}: CS1 maint: unfit URL (link)

"Between 2015 and 2017, several members of Freedom Church were elected to Herefordshire Council as Conservative Party councillors." - Odd reference

In the following quote under Notable people:

Between 2015 and 2017, several members of Freedom Church were elected to Herefordshire Council as Conservative Party councillors.^[1]

I've not been able to find the referenced press release and, as far as the reference shows, the Correction in the reference disputes the reference anyway.

Any objection to the removal of this sentence due to a lack of reference?

PandaWent (talk) 17:19, 26 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ (Press release). It's Our County. 27 October 2017. Congratulations to Stuart Anderson (Conservative) for winning the King's Acre by-election this evening. [...] Stuart joins Jon Johnson, David Harlow and Mark McEvilly as the fourth member of Freedom Church Hereford to become a Conservative County Councillor since 2015. CORRECTION: Cllr David Harlow - Cabinet Member for Economic Development in Herefordshire has asked us to point out that he is not, and never has been, a member of the Freedom Church. We are happy to make this correction and would like to apologise to the Freedom Church for any embarrassment that our mistaken posting might have caused them. {{cite press release}}: Missing or empty |title= (help)

Wording of controversy about handing out sweets to children

I disagree with the rewording of "volunteers who were standing outside Whitecross Hereford High School school giving sweets and chocolates to schoolchildren in an attempt to recruit them to the church's youth club" to "youth workers and children from Whitecross Hereford High School who were advertising the Church's youthclub outside the school". I don't think it is a more neutral framing of the story to omit the detail that the volunteers were handing out sweets to children, as in the source this is given several times as the reason for the phone call to the police. Also, as far as I can tell the source does not support the statement that children were among those giving out sweets and chocolates to the schoolchildren. --81.103.238.198 (talk) 13:18, 3 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, Are you happy with the new wording?

"In 2012, the police were called on Freedom Church youth workers and children from Whitecross Hereford High School who were giving out sweets to advertise the Church's youthclub."

PandaWent (talk) 14:19, 3 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

[1] "How is Freedom Church funded? | Freedom Church". Retrieved 4 June 2020.

[2] "Does Freedom Church give money to other causes or organisations? | Freedom Church". Retrieved 4 June 2020.

[3] "Trustee's report 2015 - 2016" (PDF). eauk.org.cc. Retrieved 25 June 2020. Freedom Church Hereford CIO has been receiving financial support for a number of years from NewSpring Church (South Carolina, USA). As anticipated, and by mutual agreement, this support came to an end in December 2017

[4] "How is Freedom Church funded? | Freedom Church". Archived from the original on 9 June 2020.{{cite web}}: CS1 maint: unfit URL (link)

[5] "Does Freedom Church give money to other causes or organisations? | Freedom Church". Archived from the original on 9 June 2020.{{cite web}}: CS1 maint: unfit URL (link)

[6] (Press release). It's Our County. 27 October 2017. Congratulations to Stuart Anderson (Conservative) for winning the King's Acre by-election this evening. [...] Stuart joins Jon Johnson, David Harlow and Mark McEvilly as the fourth member of Freedom Church Hereford to become a Conservative County Councillor since 2015. CORRECTION: Cllr David Harlow - Cabinet Member for Economic Development in Herefordshire has asked us to point out that he is not, and never has been, a member of the Freedom Church. We are happy to make this correction and would like to apologise to the Freedom Church for any embarrassment that our mistaken posting might have caused them. {{cite press release}}: Missing or empty |title= (help)

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