Talk:Gary (given name)

Why

Shale: Why is the page "Gary" but with intrasite links for "Garry"?67.62.109.178 (talk) 20:13, 9 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Garaidh

1. None of the sources reveal what word elements Garaidh is derived from. That means it's misleading to present it as being derived from the same root as Gary. In fact, the name doesn't appear at all in the the second edition of A dictionary of names, which features extensive sections specifically devoted to foreign-language names, including Irish and Scottish Gaelic. This makes me suspect that it's offhand inclusion in the first edition was likely erroneous. In fact, it's mentioned only under Gary in the first edition, and not under an entry of its own like Garry or even Gaz; and it's not even listed as a variant of Gary.

2. The 'about' template is used for articles with similar titles, it "should not be used unless other topics exist with names very similar to the name of the article it is being used on (which, for most articles, is not the case)." There's no way someone is going to confuse an article titled "Gary (given name)" with the articles titled "Gareth" or "Garaidh".--Brianann MacAmhlaidh (talk) 09:33, 9 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

1. It is not misleading, since the source indicates that "Gary" and "Garry" are used as diminutives of "Garaidh", and this article covers the spelling "Gary". I say spelling because it is covering the diminutive form of "Gareth" in the section I modified to include the diminutive of "Garaidh". Gareth is not the name "Gary" as indicated as spear.

2. Clearly it can be confused, since the form "Gary" and "Garry" (which is nominally covered by this article) are both used as diminutives of "Garaidh", so the hatnote is appropriate. Indeed, "Gary" is used as a diminutive of "Gareth", so is additionally ambiguous.

-- 76.65.131.217 (talk) 07:59, 10 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The very next paragraph says, "The Gaelic Garaidh is also associated with Gary", and cites the same ref – A dictionary of first names. All the edit did was to duplicate information. Scolaire (talk) 09:00, 10 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

That should have been removed, I'll admit I goofed in not removing that sentence when reformatting the other paragraph. The paragraph I modified indicates what "Gary" relates to for Gareth, and it works exactly the same way for Garaidh. Separating the term from the discussion of diminutives being called "Gary" removes the information. Garrison is a derivation of Gary while Garaidh isn't, but is presented in a manner that makes it appear so. -- 76.65.131.217 (talk) 22:32, 10 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Garry is not a variant of Gary

Gary derives from the German Gar but Garry is of Scots/Irish Origin and derives from Garaidh (Gáidhlig/Gaeilge)

This article also contradicts the article on the given name Garaidh — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.147.215.63 (talk) 19:07, 7 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Diminutive form of Garrett

The article says the following: "Because of the "Gare" sound at the beginning, Gary is sometimes incorrectly thought to be a diminutive of Garrett, even though the two names are not related in any way."

First off, according to their respective articles here, Gary and Garrett have the same root – the Germanic gar meaning spear. They are related in some way, so the last part of the sentence is false. I also don't think Wikipedia should claim that a name is incorrectly thought to be a diminutive of another name. Diminutives aren't a natural science. They're used in very different ways around the world, and I wouldn't make the judgement that some of those ways are incorrect and neither should Wikipedia. Third, the whole paragraph is unsourced.

I edited the article to correct these things, but got promptly rolled back and linked to help articles about vandalism by User:Dmartin969. Based on everything I know about Wikipedia, I don't believe this was the correct course of action, but I'd love to be corrected. 80.220.147.220 (talk) 07:47, 16 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]