Talk:Goatman (Maryland)

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NPOV[edit]

Article used to end with, "He is still at large." This is, to me, definitely not a neutral pov. If something is not real, how could it be, "at large"? I changed the text to read, "No substantial physical evidence of the Goatman's existence has been found."

Removal of some uncited text[edit]

I removed the following from the article:

There have been stories of a government cover-up.

Another sighting occurred in Mountain Home, Arkansas near the Sonic in the back alley. He had a hatchet and a person's leg. A waitress saw him and tried to talk to him. He ran off through the bushes never to be seen again.

This info was added by anons who have a history of vandalising this article and several others. I would say that at worst it is made up and at best a campfire horror story. I know this whole article is basically an urban (or rural) legend, but at least most of it is sourced. I almost took out the part about the scientist with the goat human hybrid, but I figured at least it was in the right county, and was likely to be part of the local legend. --Joelmills 22:22, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

In the case of urban legends, it's often best to add things as being part of the legend and to source the legend itself rather than the individual parts of it. This way, you're saying that the legend is real, and not the events in it.
There are of course limits to this, particularl in cases like this were there are multiple legends with embelishments. In tese cases, the embelishments should be weeded out until the core elements of the legend are left.
perfectblue 07:02, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

I lived in the Green Bay area of Wisconsin for most of my life and have heard, from two sources, an urban legend of a goatman located on or near the Oneida Reservation located West of Green Bay. One of the sources (a member of the Oneida Tribe) gave a description that would make it seem to be some sort of boogeyman-type story told by parents to frighten unruly children. I don't know if this qualifies as a proper citation, but I hope it helps. TTBoyArDee (talk) 22:00, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Lake Worth[edit]

The Lake Worth bigfoot differs too much from the goatman (it has huma feet and scales, the goatman has goats feet and does not have scales. Besides, it already has its own page Lake Worth monster. All Lake Worth monster details should go there instead.

perfectblue 17:22, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

the lake worth monster is mentioned in this article and is called "goatman" locally because of horns etc... greer island aka goatman island pretty much qualifies it as applicable. im not local to maryland so i dont pretend to know about the local legends other than what i read; i am local to lake worth and familiar with the legend having lived on the lake and been to the island several times since i was a kid. i think it stays. if you want to remove it, rename this article "maryland goatman" so as to be exclusive to that legend.

Please sign your comments.
The Lake Worth bigfoot has its own page, regardless of what this article is named, all Lake Worth monster/goatman text belongs there, otherwise what would be the point of having a seperate page?
The Texas monster might be called a goatman on occasion, but it has scales and homonid feet (Hence the 'Bigfoot' tag), while the Maryland creature has goat's feet and does not have scales.
It wouldn't be a good idea to rename this article as it is a re-direct from a disambiguation page, so instead I am altering the disambiguation catagory.

perfectblue 07:44, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

OK[edit]

So if you were to take a goatman, who is part goat, part man, and put him in a cage with an el chupa, what would happen?

I'm not certain, but the FCC would probably stop you from showing it during prime time
perfectblue 12:02, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Swamp Thing influence?[edit]

In one version, the Goatman is a mutated scientist per Daniel Cohen's Monsters, Giants, Little Men from Mars. Was this verison around before the Swamp Thing debuted in 1971?

Enda80Enda80

I doubt that it was influenced specifically by Swamp Thing, but there is a real Hollywood ring to the mutated scientist version, isn't there. That kind of story has been a part of US popular culture for decades in comics and B-movies.
perfectblue 08:19, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

ridiculous infobox excised[edit]

The "paranormalcreatures" infobox, like the similar piece of scrawl affixed to the poltergeist article, has been excised. There is simply no need for such an infobox, I'm afraid. Looks like people have spent a lot more time working on HAVING such an infobox than actually USING the infobox. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.171.83.194 (talk) 20:01, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Going to need major cleanup[edit]

The whole thrust of this article seems to be to present this as some supposed cryptozoological creature, which means it's framed from the view that it's really real and not, as the prevailing academic belief of any expert who has even heard of it would agree, a bit of urban legend/folklore.

What we need are sources that fit WP:RS criteria, especially on the folklore end instead of the promotion of it as a real creature. Refs to sources expressing an opinion must explicitly be worded to say that it's that sources opinion and not to suggest that it's factual. Also, there's a bunch of uncited claims in here that are original research, such as supposed similarities to fiction and other urban legends, and so forth and so on. DreamGuy (talk) 15:56, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Lansdale novel[edit]

Is the paragraph on the Lansdale novel really relevant to the "Goat Man (Maryland)" article since it discusses a "Goat Man" of East Texas? Ketone16 (talk) 14:46, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

I moved this section of the article to the Lake Worth monster (Texas goatman) article. Ketone16 (talk) 22:12, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

The Goat Man was attributed to Lottsford Road of off Landover Rd RT 202 in PG County, that part of the article/page should be corrected. Any old PG County boy would know that, we have an entire facebook page devoted to Lottsford Rd - Dan Edwards —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.204.126.30 (talk) 06:23, 22 February 2010 (UTC)