Talk:Green Ribbon Club

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Ireton was long dead

Ireton was long dead by the Restoration, and this article is horribly PoV almost all the way through.

It's almost as if someone wanted to blacken the modern UK Liberal Party's origins.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.183.47.175 (talk • contribs) 08:18, 16 January 2007‎

Treaty of Dover

It should be borne in mind that in 1670 Charles II signed the secret Treaty of Dover agreeing to convert both himself and the country to Roman Catholicism on the basis of a hefty bribe by Louis XIV, for which Louis promised 6,000 troops in support - this being the aproximate size of the English standing army at the time, so whipping up paranoia against the Catholic threat was not entirely unjustified. Although the terms of the Treaty did not become open knowledge until the 19th century, Shaftesbury knew as Clifford, who had helped negatiate it with Danby had told him. It was not permissible to criticise the King directly (unless you wanted to get hanged, drawn & quartered) hence much of the agitation took the form of "protecting the King from evil advisors and the Roman Catholic Church". These thing came to a head with the Rye House Plot and the accession of James II who did draw upon French military support until defeats at the Boyne & LaHogue. So the Green Ribbon Club did have a point which tends to be overlooked.--Streona (talk) 09:59, 12 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

EB1911

This is all from the 1910/11 Brittanica - lots of prejudices in English Restoration political historiography have been exposed in the last 100 years. Needs more sources. -neal (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 18:39, 3 May 2010 (UTC).[reply]