I still think the wording "The inspiration for this constellation was drawn from Ancient Egypt, where the crane symbolized a stargazer because of its high flight" is tosh. What is the source? The references given all seem to repeat each other. Given that they credit Bayer as the originator rather than Keyser and de Houtman suggests that the scholarship leaves something to be desired. Keyser and de Houtman based their constellations on exotic animals they had seen on their travels. I may do them a disservice, but I doubt they knew anything about ancient Egypt. Skeptic2 (talk) 23:18, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
Thank you. Incidentally, I note that some editors are placing rather too much trust in the works of sources such as R.H. Allen and J. Staal, who are not always reliable. This needs watching.Skeptic2 (talk) 11:23, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
I think you are correct and we need to be careful about them. Cas Liber (talk·contribs) 13:33, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
An alternative name for the constellation, Phoenicopterus (Latin "flamingo"), was used briefly during the early 17th century, seen in the 1605 work Cosmographiae Generalis by Paul Merula of Leiden University and a c, 1625 globe by Dutch globe maker Pieter van den Keere.
What is "a c"?
supposed to be "c." - hence circa. I can't think of an easier way to say it. Cas Liber (talk·contribs) 09:19, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
As both of these people worked with Plancius, astronomer Ian Ridpath has reported the symbolism likely came from him originally.
Unclear pronoun antecedents. Does "both of these people" mean Merula and van den Keere? Does "from him" mean from Plancius?
yes- was using pronouns to reduce repetition - I thought the structure and meaning made it unambiguous... Cas Liber (talk·contribs) 09:19, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
In Central Australia, the Arrernte and Luritja people living in on a mission in Hermannsburg viewed the sky as divided between them, east of the Milky Way representing Arrernte camps and west denoting Luritja camps.
SN 2001ig, one of the two supernovas within NGC7424, was discovered in 2001 and classified as a Type IIb supernova, one that initially shows a weak hydrogen line in its spectrum, but whose H emission later becomes undetectable and is replaced by lines of oxygen, magnesium and calcium, as well as other features that resemble the spectrum of a Type Ib supernova.
I checked 88 modern constellations by area on a spreadsheet. The numbers in the table are internally consistent, with Grus 0.886% of the total solid angle which sums to very close to 4π (5 significant figures). Whether the numbers in this table are right is a different matter, of course. Stigmatella aurantiaca (talk) 11:29, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
The correct figure is 0.887%. All sources that I have checked agree, including Philip M. Bagnall, The Star Atlas Companion: What you need to know about the Constellations which was cited incorrectly in the text.Stigmatella aurantiaca (talk) 21:48, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
whoops - fixed now. Not sure how that happened - I think I must have cut-and-pasted the text from another constellation but accidentally not changed that like I changed everything else..... Cas Liber (talk·contribs) 03:18, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
The 15-20 references that I spot-checked looked appropriately cited. Ridpath is sufficiently notable that use of his self-published web site should be acceptable. Stigmatella aurantiaca (talk) 21:26, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
Thank you. May I note that Jim Kaler's site on Stars is also self-published but you do not choose to describe that as such. Ian 188.8.131.52 (talk) 10:07, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
Hmmm, not sure as it is hosted by University of Illinois....will ask and see how we should describe it. Cas Liber (talk·contribs) 10:25, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
I removed some material stating the constellation is not visible from the British Isles or northern North America, but it is visible from Florida and California. It's been put back, due possibly to some problem with referencing. My question is, what is the relevance of this constellation not being visible from certain locations, or being visible from certain very specific locations? I would suggest none. We don't say that Ursa Major is not visible from New Zealand, why should we? Similarly, we should avoid this US/UK centric stuff and remove the text - I would respectfully suggest. MidnightBlue(Talk) 14:37, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
The language spoken on en.wp is English, hence visibility or otherwise from an English speaking country is more significant. Also, locales are more accessible than latitudes for lay readers. Florida is obviously at the bottom of the US and it is by its latitude that it highlights to the lay reader where the constellation can be seen. Cas Liber (talk·contribs) 21:13, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
And it can bee seen from the whole southern hemisphere so no need to say anything. When I write about a northern constellation there will be similar material on how far south it can be seen (if I can find it). Cas Liber (talk·contribs) 21:14, 21 February 2015 (UTC)