Talk:Guy Montag

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Order of events

The order of events leading to him questioning his exstince are right, but are out of order. I will fix them

DK08 10/28/06 22:16

Do they have to be numbered? NightMaj 23:50, 23 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Popular culture

Some popular culture mentions were removed from the article. While it could be integrated better, it goes to establish the cultural significance of the character, and I think it's entirely appropriate to include. Another editor disagrees so I'm putting it here:

Gui Montag, a flamethrower-wielding character (a hero firebat) in StarCraft, is named after Montag.
A second amendment court case against the San Francisco Housing Authority listed the plaintiff as being Guy Montag Doe

This bit needs a citation:

Bradbury notes^{[citation needed]} that he found, after the book was published, that Montag is the name of a paper company, making him the counterpart to Faber, which is also the name of a pencil manufacturer. ChildofMidnight (talk) 21:16, 17 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I removed those two items. A character in a video game isn't relevant unless a source can be found saying that the naming was a deliberate reference. The court case (I wrote that article BTW) also has zero relationship to the character other than the name. If there is some significance beyond the fact that someone randomly picked a name to indicate a "generic plaintiff", then it should be cited. Otherwise, it has no relevance to this character. ~Amatulić (talk) 22:05, 17 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Isn't the second amendment freedom of speech? That seems like a big coincidence. I understand you are on rather firm policy ground, but I also think indication of terms and characters being used in popular culture can be significant and important to understanding the role a subject plays. ChildofMidnight (talk) 00:23, 18 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No, the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution isn't about freedom of speech, it's about the right to keep and bear arms. If there's any connection beyond a random name selection to indicate that the plaintiff is generic, that connection must be pretty tenuous. Only the person who wrote the original complaint would know the connection, if any.

I agree with your point about understanding a character in the context of the character's influence of popular culture. However, I disagree that an indiscrimminate list of facts in a trivia section contributes to that understanding. ~Amatulić (talk) 01:06, 18 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yikes. My mistake. In my defense I would like to point out that I was only off by one amendment. I sort of assumed that's why they did it that way, they should have called the person Deer Hunter Doe, or Bernard Goetz Doe or ummmm Clint Eastwood Doe. I wonder why they picked Montag? You think it's just a coincidence? Wacky. Oh well. The video game connection is a bit weak as well. I tend to be cautious about removals, because I think thsoe kinds of things can be significant as examples and cumulatively, but I guess what's needed are some good ones with citations. That's the only way to fight fire with fire in this case... ChildofMidnight (talk) 01:32, 18 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Defense noted. :)

I remember when I first wrote the article about Guy Montag Doe v. San Francisco Housing Authority, I wondered why that name was chosen, because I didn't see any connection either. I wanted to write something in the article about the title, but I couldn't find anything indicating the reason for using that name. ~Amatulić (talk) 17:58, 18 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Meaning of the name

Does the name Montag have any deeper meaning? It happens to be German for "monday". -- wr 87.139.81.19 (talk) 11:53, 11 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

In the book?

There's currently more info on Montag from the videogame than the book. There's no info on how he was prior to the game. I feel it's necessary to get info from there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pokelego999 (talk • contribs) 19:01, 8 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]