Talk:Harvey Milk/Archive 4

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REQUEST FOR COMMENT: Milk's involvement with Jim Jones/Peoples Temple

Removed People's temple section

Peoples Temple - Please Don't Delete Entire NPOV Sourced Sections with No Consensus To Do So

I have now cut the Peoples Temple section to just three sentences

Sources needed

After the riots, the humiliated police showed up in force on Castro Street without authorization, and soon proceeded to enter the Elephant Walk Bar at the corner of 18th and Castro, smashing the place up and bashing heads of stunned patrons and employees. Several people required hospitalization, and the resulting lawsuits cost the City a fortune.

This is a serious allegation but at the moment it reads like a rumour. Apart from the non-encyclopaedic tone ("showed up", "smashing the place up and bashing heads" etc), this feels very anecdotal and could do with some sources. What sort of "authorisation" would the police need simply to go to a certain street — or was it entering the bar that was unauthorised, or were they acting on their own initiative without orders from superiors? Flapdragon 09:00, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Not sure if this has been addressed but see White Night Riots. Benjiboi 23:33, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

This is fact correct, it actually happened. I was living in San Francisco at the time, not very far from the Elephant Walk. The police went into the bar and busted up people. It was dubbed a police riot by all in the community. There were a series of investigations into the matter. The police were angry, it was the 70s, and they did what they pleasd back then, even in a place like San Francisco. Ricksf1 Ricksf1 (talk) 04:36, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

The Elephant Walk information doesn't need to be extensive here but should be a few sentences, I think it was the first gay bar to have windows in the Castro, possible in the city as well. Banjeboi 05:13, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

Bust at city Hall

this section has loads of online material about the competition, fundraisers, political workings and the designs themselves being unveiled at City Hall for voting/comments. Benjiboi 23:35, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

  1. ^ Jonestown: The Life and Death of Peoples Temple. PBS.org.
  2. ^ a b c d Milk, Harvey Letter Addressed to President Jimmy Carter, Dated February 19, 1978
  3. ^ Reiterman, Tim (1982) "Raven: The Untold Story of Reverand Jim Jones and His People" ISBN 0-525-24136-1 page 176
  4. ^ Transcript of Conversation Between Jim Jones and Rosalynn Carter pledging support for Carter regarding LGBT-oriented bar issue, Jonestown Institute, San Diego State University
  5. ^ a b Kinsolving, Kathleen and Tom. "Madman in Our Midst: Jim Jones and the California Cover Up." 1998.
  6. ^ Another Day of Death Time Magazine, December 11, 1978
  7. ^ Sawyer, Mary My Lord, What a Mourning:’ Twenty Years Since Jonestown, Jonestown Institute at SDSU
  8. ^ Reiterman, Tim (1982) "Raven: The Untold Story of Reverand Jim Jones and His People" ISBN 0-525-24136-1 page 298