Talk:Hetzner
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Less PR, perhaps?
[edit]The insightful addition of "In 2017, Hetzner Online celebrated its 20th anniversary with a multi-day event at its data center park in Falkenstein. The event, "Willkommen im Internet", included technical workshops, a tour of the facility, and a public, open-air concert by Austrian singer, Christina Stürmer." is, albeit obviously a nice memory of a fun few days for those who participated, but also is, frankly, a nice gem of embarrassing lack of focus in a Wikipedia article (as opposed to a company news bulletin hanging on a corridor next to the coffee machine). Sz. (talk) 12:11, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
Coverage of glavcom.ua incident
[edit]@Tiphareth: I think there's too much judgement in the coverage of this incident. Please use impartial, factual language, or describe exactly who made the judgement, clearly backed by a source. For example, claims that imply that Hetzner is "pro-Russian" or deliberately "censored" or "threatened" anyone is a judgement, not fact. There is no evidence of malice involved. Personally I think the company is just trigger-happy to get rid of problematic customers in hopes of saving customer support time.
Renaming "Roskomnadzor" to "Russian Federal Surveillance Service" is just blatant misrepresentation.
Also some points of view described in the text don't match up to my attempts at verification (admittedly I'm using Google Translate, but it can't be that much off). If you disagree, please supply your own translation to English of relevant parts.
- Article states "Vassily Zvarych [...] gave a press-conference criticising Hetzner's blatant pro-Russian censorship stance" (source translation). Source doesn't seem to state anyone criticizng Hetzner, the translation merely states "We were surprised by the position of the German company Hetzner Online, which serves the "glavcom" and that, expressing consent to put pressure on the Ukrainian site about the removal of said material, actually accompanies Russian attempts to limit the freedom of the media"
- Article "German chapter of Reporters Without Borders issued a statement condemning Hetzner and the Russian censorship agency" (source translation). Again, source only describes Hetzner's actions without condemning them: "In parallel, called Roskomnadzor also the German host of glavcom.ua, the Gunzenhausen company Hetzner Online, Glavcom move to remove the information. As is apparent from an article published by glavcom on August 6 letter, has a staff of Hetzner Online, glavcom in an e-mail not only invited to the corresponding deletion of information, but also with a possible lockout threatened the side, should glavcom not the call comply within 24 hours. Justification As stated, glavcom contrary to section 6 of Hetzner Policy."
I'm also removing the "Censorship controversy" top-level heading, I think a section titled "Incidents" is appropriate for this. -- intgr [talk] 17:24, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
- "Renaming "Roskomnadzor" to "Russian Federal
- Surveillance Service" is just blatant misrepresentation."
- You are wrong here: it is a literal translation. Nadzor (надзор) is surveillance.
- For the rest, sure, we shall try to make it more factual and referenced, thank you. Tiphareth (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 22:26, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
- Fair enough. Official sources say "Supervision", but you're right, there's not much difference. Can we agree on using "Roskomnadzor"? -- intgr [talk] 00:07, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
Apparent contradiction
[edit]@Liz95: I took out the phrase that you added "in accordance with the company's procedure for dealing with abuse complaints", because it seems to contradict Hetzner's own claim that "their technical support team took a wrong decision which they regret" from a source [1]. Unless you want to elaborate? -- intgr [talk] 21:35, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
Germany, confiscation
[edit]Confiscation by German police: https://martinsvillebulletin.com/news/national/govt-and-politics/germany-seizes-server-hosting-pilfered-us-police-files/article_d0168ccc-7fc9-569c-a7b4-ed8f848647cd.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:C0:DF04:6500:D5C1:C694:5E18:D2AD (talk) 08:05, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
Revenue and net income
[edit]The infobox does not say which currency it is referring to when it states Hetzner's revenue and net income, nor does it have any sources. Sandsandsandsa (talk) 09:39, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
List Country
[edit]What is meant by this point?
if i understand it the way that Hetzner has licensed others to host servers in that country’s under the Hetzner brand and if this is the case, I can’t find evidence for it. Elliewithcolor (talk) 22:14, 24 March 2024 (UTC)