Talk:Public holidays in Japan/Archive 1

Regarding the merger idea

Please post any future comments regarding the merger idea over at Talk:Japanese calendar instead of here since there's already a discussion that started over there. —Tokek 06:30, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)

These are both part of series and I am removing the notices, which have been ignored. CalJW 16:52, 17 September 2005 (UTC)

Removal of Non-national Holidays

It has been suggested that non-national holidays are irrelevant to the Topic. However, the topic is not "National Holidays in Japan" it is "Holidays in Japan." Just because a holiday is not a national holiday does not render it not worth mentioning, nor are these holidays any less celebrated. I would think that more information is better then less, so long as it is relevant to the topic of holidays in Japan.

If the community wishes to change this topic to "National Holidays" and have another section for non-national holidays, then that is a possibility, but that would tend to be unnecessarily redundant, especially as a merger has been discussed. Kirkpatrick 12:59, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

I'm in favor of covering both national holidays and non-national holidays in one article. An article on holidays of Japan should be comprehensive. I would even go into the history of some of the holidays. As long as the article makes clear what the current national holidays are, I see no reason not to include all information under this general heading. -Jefu 13:09, August 8, 2005 (UTC)

Merging with Japanese Calendar article

It's been suggested that this article be merged with Japanese calendar, and I'm inclined to agree, especially given that all the Japanese national holidays have their own articles. Rather than improve this article, wouldn't it be a better use of time to improve the individual holiday articles and gradually phase this one out? -- Exitmoose 07:36, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

It would probably work. Another possibility is to combine the holidays into this article and phase out the individual articles. I'm open to either. Fg2 08:04, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

P.S. the drive to improve the article was a year ago. Fg2 08:05, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

It's been a month. Is there any more opinion on this? Fg2 10:32, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

I'm not opposed to the idea of a merger; but, where would we put a list of non-holidays, like White Day or Tanabata? Neier 12:57, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Removing merger proposal. Fg2 07:07, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

2009 autumnal equinox note

I'm curious about the statement about the 2009 autumnal equinox:

A provision of the law establishes that when a national holiday lands on a Sunday, that holiday is moved to the next day. Also when a day is sandwiched between two national holidays, that day shall also become a holiday (thus May 4, sandwiched between May 3 and May 5, is a holiday). By the same law, September 22, 2009 is supposed to be a national holiday because the autumnal equinox is expected to land on September 23 that year; however, the official date of autumnal equinox will be decided on February 1 of that year.

This seems to reference the previous statement that holidays that fall on a Sunday are moved up to Monday. However, September 22, 2009, is a Teusday. Further, the only holiday that is around that time is Respect for the Aged Day (September 21, 2009). What is this statement about the autumnal equinox supposed to enlighten upon? - Everchanging02 00:18, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Respect for the aged day will be on September 21. Whether the Japanese government determines that the equinox is on the 22nd or 23rd is not decided yet. From a strict celestial physics point of view, it should be on the 23rd, which would give everyone three days off. But, governments have been known to try and regulate science before: Indiana Pi Bill, etc. Neier 04:46, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

According to the Japanese article ja:秋分の日 (Vernal Equinox Day), it has never been assigned to days other than the day calculated based on celestial physics. --Kusunose 06:34, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Shinto Holidays

I was searching wikipedia and, to my supprise, I found no Shinto holidays. I checked this page 'cuz I thought it'd be here, since Shinto is a japanese religion, and still found nothing. Is it that they have no holidays? Or is it that Wikipedia has not found any yet? Kingsean12 (talk) 05:06, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

There are holidays that have connections with Shinto, for example, the founding of Japan by the first emperor and the harvest festival. These have become national holidays under different names. There's also the current emperor's birthday. The emperor was the center of State Shinto and the imperial family is important in Shinto generally. Other than that, shrines have festivals, typically spring and autumn (see Japanese festivals) but they're local, and there's no one day for Shinto festivals nationwide. Fg2 (talk) 05:43, 18 December 2007 (UTC)