Talk:Holland Tunnel/GA1

GA Review[edit]

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Reviewer: Power~enwiki (talk · contribs) 20:15, 10 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Rate	Attribute	Review Comment
1. Well-written:
	1a. the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct.	A few comments below. power~enwiki (π, ν) 18:59, 11 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
	1b. it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation.
2. Verifiable with no original research:
	2a. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline.
	2b. reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose).
	2c. it contains no original research.
	2d. it contains no copyright violations or plagiarism.	There are quite a few hits in the copyvio tool; most of these are clear false positives due to re-use of phrases such as "New York State Bridge and Tunnel Commission". The top hit [1] is due to the limited number of ways to describe the carbon-monoxide levels. power~enwiki (π, ν) 20:28, 10 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
3. Broad in its coverage:
	3a. it addresses the main aspects of the topic.	The article doesn't have an "in popular culture" section, which might be possible. I don't think it needs such a section. power~enwiki (π, ν) 20:21, 10 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
	3b. it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style).
	4. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each.
	5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute.
6. Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio:
	6a. media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content.	I don't know how to see the license for the video in the infobox. Everything else is tagged correctly. power~enwiki (π, ν) 20:21, 10 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
	6b. media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions.
	7. Overall assessment.	Pending

Looks very good at a first pass; I'll do a line-by-line check for grammar and referencing in a few hours. Two minor things: first, I don't like "Context" as the name of the sub-section heading; is there a better choice? Second, the table of tolls should say that the current toll of $15 is equivalent to $15 in 2018 dollars, right? power~enwiki (π, ν) 20:36, 10 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Power~enwiki: Thanks for taking up the review. I've amended the section header to "Need for vehicular tunnel". As for the toll table, the current "toll equivalent" is actually incorrect, as the current toll is still $15 and the price values don't adjust for inflation. epicgenius (talk) 00:11, 11 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Although the two tubes' underwater sections are parallel - should this be "adjacent"? Being parallel doesn't mean the tubes couldn't be two blocks apart. power~enwiki (π, ν) 18:59, 11 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Power~enwiki: Fixed. epicgenius (talk) 00:33, 12 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The river shafts doubled as emergency exits by way of shipping piers that connected each ventilation shaft to the shoreline. - are these still emergency exits, or was this just during construction? power~enwiki (π, ν) 18:59, 11 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

They still are emergency shafts. It would be pretty unsafe to have these shafts not be used if an emergency were to happen. epicgenius (talk) 00:33, 12 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

the I-78 and NJ 139 - is it common practice in New York to use "the" to refer to highways? (I know it is done in LA and not done in SF) power~enwiki (π, ν) 18:59, 11 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Depends on who you're talking to. I removed "the". epicgenius (talk) 23:55, 11 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Truck drivers were invited to Bridge Commission meetings, where they would hear about the details of both the 57th Street Bridge and Canal Street Tunnel plans. - should this be reworded so the subject of the sentence is the meetings, rather than the truck drivers? power~enwiki (π, ν) 18:59, 11 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Done. epicgenius (talk) 23:55, 11 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

New York State Bridge and Tunnel Commission - is there a redirect target for this group? I assume it was subsumed into the Port Authority (or dissolved). I can't read all of [2] which may describe it. power~enwiki (π, ν) 18:59, 11 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You're correct. It was merged with the PANYNJ as part of the construction of the Lincoln Tunnel. epicgenius (talk) 23:55, 11 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Actually that and the New Jersey Bridge and Tunnel Commission. This might not be the full name though. epicgenius (talk) 00:36, 12 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

it was the first instance in the tunnel's history where the entirety of the tubes was flooded - this doesn't appear to be sourced (and is missing a period as well). power~enwiki (π, ν) 18:59, 11 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Technically this is not even the first instance. The tunnel was also flooded during construction. epicgenius (talk) 23:55, 11 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]