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In the article, it has been mentioned that this museum gains its name from the Hoods Tower, an observation tower named after Vice-Admiral Sir Samuel Hood. But there are no any RS given for that. However the current museum doesn't bear the name Hoods Tower Museum but the Naval museum. The tower standing there (Hoods tower) has not given its name to the museum and is just treated as a special monument. Therefore I suggest that the name of this article should be changed to Naval museum, Trincomalee.--L Manju (talk) 08:17, 20 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Presumably you can provide WP:RS to show that its WP:COMMONNAME is Naval Museum, Trincomalee? Google Maps shows it as Hoods Tower Naval Museum.--Obi2canibe (talk) 15:19, 26 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The official description about the museum can be found on this page published by the Sri Lanka Navy. I believe that is a valid RS. It titled the museum as Naval museum. Pls see the picture at right side also. I think we shouldn't consider about the name on Google maps as it is not considered a RS.--L Manju (talk) 05:26, 27 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

We don't use official names, we use the most common name in reliable English language sources. This is what needs to be established.--Obi2canibe (talk) 15:05, 10 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

So what will be the most common name for this museum. I searched in English language sources but couldn't find the name Hoods Tower Museum. If we couldn't find this name in reliable English language sources then what shall we do? Don't we need to move this title in to its original name. --L Manju (talk) 10:55, 11 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@L Manju: - I'm surprised by this. Here are the sources I found:

Hoods Tower Museum: 7,030 results, mostly travel sites or mirror sites of Wikipedia. A few reliable sources e.g. Daily Mirror, Sunday Leader, Daily FT, Sunday Times.
Naval Museum, Trincomalee: 362 results, again mostly travel sites. One reliable source, Island.
Hoods Tower Naval Museum: 186 results, again mostly travel sites.

Lack of reliable sources makes it difficult to judge the common name but to me it looks like Hoods Tower Museum.--Obi2canibe (talk) 14:57, 17 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I am sorry but the search links you have provided gave me these search result numbers. (really don't know how to find the exact values)

Hoods Tower Museum: About 2,760 results
Naval Museum, Trincomalee: About 839 results
Hoods Tower Naval Museum: About 309 results

It is really hard to find the common name. The both names have been given in various sources but many of them are mirror sites of Wikipedia and not Reliable sources. Thank you for finding some news sites referencing the name of the museum as Hoods tower. It is seemed that these article writers have just put their preferred name neglecting the original. Pls see Daily Mirror article. It has put the title as the Hoods Tower Museum but begins like this The naval museum of the Sri Lankan navy is located at Ostenburg in the peninsular within the naval dockyard. Again says The museum is named after Samuel Hood, who was the Commander of the East Indies Station. There is also an observation tower called Hoods Tower. This statement clearly shows that the article writer was unaware about the real name of the museum. Also the Sunday leader writer has mentioned that he had included some parts to his article from Wikipedia. Other two are the same just mentioning the name Hoods tower museum. However all of these sites say that this is the naval museum of Sri Lanka Navy located in Trincomalee. So what would be the most common name? I also found following sources, refer the museum name as Naval museum in Trincomalee.

Encyclopedia of Sri Lanka By Charles A. Gunawardena, quote = His interest in Naval weapons led to the establishment of a naval museum in the dockyard at trincomalee.
Sunday Times quote = His enthusiasm towards tracing the history of naval guns and cannons have encouraged his subordinates to follow suit and paved the way for the establishment of the Naval Museum at the Trincomalee Naval Dockyard.
News.lk
News First, quote = Thereafter, the President paid a visit to the Navy Museum via a Dvora vessel and inspected vessels and weapons which were seized by the Navy from the LTTE.
Ceylon Today quote = Information courtesy from Naval Museum and Naval Dockyards Trincomalee.
Sunday Observer, quote = There is a naval museum situated on an elevated rock formation where famous King Parakramabahu (1123-1186) had rallied. Today, the Navy museum showcases old machines, guns, sea mines and artifacts, mainly from the colonial era, in good condition.

As my opinion the name Hoods Tower Museum should be come as the second name of the museum after the original name. --L Manju (talk) 14:04, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@L Manju: Given the lack of reliable sources, I don't want to get into a prolonged discussion about this. If you want to rename the article, go ahead.--Obi2canibe (talk) 20:02, 24 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]