Talk:Hope (NF song)

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"He is eventually transported to a mountain top, looking lost as he raps"

He is finally telling his former self, Nate, to get lost. That is not looking "lost". It is a "Gollum"-moment... Now, never changed anything on a wiki page, and I will not now. But somebody needs to give this final part of the video description a little more love... 80.208.71.155 (talk) 20:14, 7 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I understand what you mean, but unfortunately I cannot find a source that describes it like that. MC-123 (talk) 02:24, 8 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I am not sure exactly how such a wiki article is supposed to work, but isn't citations for elements that needs expert backing? Like data or knowledge? I mean, whatever one find out there of a "descriptive nature" about the video, it is just other people writing about a video they have seen, trying to make sense of it? Not an expert speaking about some objective truth. But... I will look for this random person then, from whom we will draw these insights. I understand the need for citations generally, here it just feels a little... dunno. 80.208.71.155 (talk) 08:51, 8 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

https://hillsdalecollegian.com/2023/03/hope-reveals-nfs-maturing-message-sound/

Quote: "The song ends with a battle between NF and the demons trying to take over him. His demons say, “you’ll never evolve,” but NF says, “I know I can change.” NF’s final lines in his song are, “I’m the one in charge / I’m taking the, no / I’m taking the / Reigns.” "

I know this is more a description of the lyrics at that point, but just before he is speaking about the video, so it feels like a mix.

Anyways... Probably somebody will write a great video review at some point, from which the citations are more clear. 80.208.71.155 (talk) 09:01, 8 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]