Talk:Ice Ice Baby/GA1

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• The area where this article really lacks is that it doesn't include anything about the music video. Other song GAs have entire sections regarding the music review (i.e., Hungry Like the Wolf), and this article should have at least a substantial mention about the video, if not its own section.
  • I added a brief bit, but there really isn't a whole lot of coverage. (Ibaranoff24 (talk) 13:33, 26 February 2009 (UTC))
    • What you added is better, but could you also put something in just describing what the video is like? I've never seen it, and this article doesn't provide any kind of description. (Even if it's just as simple as Vanilla Ice rapping on a roof, some description would be good.)
      • Done. (Ibaranoff24 (talk) 20:54, 26 February 2009 (UTC))

Lyrics and music:

• "Robert Van Winkle, better known by his stage name Vanilla Ice, was born in Dallas, Texas, but later moved to South Florida." This should be dropped, as it's ultimately irrelevant to the song. It's about Van Winkle and has nothing to do with "Ice Ice Baby", which is what this article should be about.
  • Done. (Ibaranoff24 (talk) 13:33, 26 February 2009 (UTC))
• After you drop the previous sentence, chance the "basing its lyrics upon the area" to "basing its lyrics upon the South Florida area in which he was raised."
  • Done. (Ibaranoff24 (talk) 13:33, 26 February 2009 (UTC))
• "In a 1990 interview, Van Winkle stated that he had sampled the song, but joked that an additional note had been added, humming identical melodies. His comment has since been suggested to have been serious." This is a bit POV. You're giving Van Winkle the benefit of the doubt and stating as fact that he was joking during that initial interview. Even if that's true (and I think it probably is), we have to write it from a neutral statement. This should be reworded to something like, "In a 1990 interview, Van Winkle said the two melodies were slightly different because he had added an additional note. In later interviews, Van Winkle readily admitted he sampled the song and claimed his 1990 statement was a joke; others, however, suggested he had been serious."</s?
  • Rewritten. (Ibaranoff24 (talk) 13:33, 26 February 2009 (UTC))
• "Van Winkle states that as the first rapper to cross into the pop market..." This also seems a bit POV and not very neutral. Maybe something more like, "Van Winkle said as one of the first rappers to cross into the pop market..." or "Van Winkle described himself as the first rapper to cross into the pop market..."
  • Rewritten. (Ibaranoff24 (talk) 13:33, 26 February 2009 (UTC))

-- Hunter Kahn (talk) 05:02, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

A good article is:

1. Well-written: Prose is good, MOS is good.
2. Factually accurate and verifiable: Sources are good, no original research.
3. Broad in its coverage: Covers main aspects, no unneeded detail.
4. Neutral: Yes.
5. Stable: Yes.
6. Illustrated, if possible, by images: Yes.