Talk:Kà

Move article

I propose moving this article to KÀ as the website refers to the show like this. --Opspin 19:15, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

Moving the article to KÀ is fine as long as there is a redirection page from Ka for searchability

I support the move as well. --Arvedui 12:20, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Regarding Live Music

The statements about there being no live musicians are simply not true. There are a number of musicians that preform the majority of the music offstage each and every show. In fact, many of them make 'cameo' appearances during the show, preforming their pieces on stage in costume. I'm updating this info accordingly, and fixing a few grammatical mistakes/NPOV annoyances.

REPLY:

I have seen the show at least 10 times. In many parts of the show if you listen to the soundtrack carefully the music sometimes features full orchestral score and sometimes 4-part chorus – such potions has to be pre-recorded or generated in synthesized sequences. If live musician indeed play for the show their involvement is minimal. I don't think the music should be considered live if 80% of the show is generated by synthesizer or pre-recorded.

Musicians making a cameo on stage are not an evidence of live music. If you watch the end of the shows carefully after the fireworks and the cast is making final curtain bow, you will see that seven musicians on stage “playing” the final show theme. The instruments they are using at that point cannot possibly reproduce the sound coming out of the speakers.

Wow, reading this page is difficult. Who's saying what here? Just remember in the future to sign your posts on talk pages. Anyways, that's not what I'm here to discuss. Rather, I just want to point out that it doesn't matter what you saw or heard when you attended a particular show, because we here at Wikipedia have a policy against using original research in an article. Basically, this is an encyclopedia, not a research journal. If you can find a citation that the show uses primarily live or taped music, then include that info and include a reference link. And no fair reporting your personal experience on your blog, and then citing that, either. Go for major, reputable sources. Yeah, the policy can be bit of a drag at times, and for some the OR path would actually be almost trivial (I actually know members of the show, and could find out with a phone call), but it holds us to a higher standard of factual accountability. --Reverend Loki 19:03, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Followoing up to my own post to further clarify the topic. Note that what I present here does indeed qualify as Original Research, and as such this isn't basis for putting the following info in the article. Find other documentation, and you're set. Anyways, the vast majority of the music is purely live for this show. No, not all of the musicians are present at the final scene. In fact, anyone who sings generally avoids being present, as the residual smoke from all of the pyrotechnics tends to reek havoc on their throats. And yes, there is overlap between the roles of musician/singer. Now, some of the sounds are indeed synthesized by the keyboardist, and there are even a section or two where they are using prerecorded samples, but these are mixed live each show allowing for it to fit that show - if an act goes a little long, if the "climax" is off what was expected, whatever. However, the vast majority of the music you hear is being made live by live musicians. --Reverend Loki 20:05, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Language

I watched the show and loved it, but here's a question - What language are they singing it in? Does anyone know?

As with the other shows, I believe most of the dialog, and lyrics are in cirquish, the made up language that all cirque performers now.

An interview with René Dupéré at the official site suggests that the lyrics to 'O Makunde' were "invented by Elise" (the singer?) to be "light" and have an "African flavour". He doesn't go into any further detail on the lyrics, unfortunately, but it sounds like the words were just made up to sound nice. --Arvedui 12:39, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

The Elise in question would be Elise Velle, who does singing on the CD (I believe O Makunde and Pageant), and wrote the lyrics for Ka. She and composer Rene Dupere are married. CosmicJester 12:15, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

The vast majority of Cirque music is written in an imaginary language which means absolutely nothing. Some songs do mean something, like in Corteo, most songs are in Italian. The lyrics of Ka have no meaning. EDIT: sorry, I forgot to sign in before writing that. Atmadja (talk) 21:42, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Stage Designer

Wikipedia link for 'Mark Fisher' links to Mark Fisher (British Member of Parliament) not Mark Fisher (British Architect and stage designer - website: www.stufish.com)

Recent (?) changes

I saw a performance last week (10/16/08) and noticed a couple of changes. The chief archer character is completely gone now. Also, the scene between the princess and Firefly boy is gone (making his appearance at the end very confusing). The forest scene is still there, but there is no longer any action between the two characters. The princess falls, then we see the forest people do some acrobatics. Then the scene ends and we go to the slave cages. Improvius (talk) 05:01, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

They must have been trying out a shortened version or had cast members ill or missing, because I saw KA in Feb. 2009, and all of the characters and scenes that you mention were intact. 214.13.130.104 (talk) 21:30, 18 July 2009 (UTC)TexxasFinn

Move page back to Kà

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was page moved. Vegaswikian (talk) 07:06, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

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KÀ → Kà — MoS:TM states that one should "follow standard English text formatting and capitalization rules even if the trademark owner considers nonstandard formatting 'official':

• avoid: REALTOR®, TIME, KISS
• instead, use: Realtor, Time, Kiss"

AtticusX (talk) 17:13, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

• Seems reasonable. Knepflerle (talk) 18:58, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.