Talk:Kaffir piano
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I have never heard of such a thing but some names were created years ago when it was acceptable to use the term and still such names are used - not in a derogatory manner but for the sake of clarity. I do not see how a mature individual, sure of the fact that he or she is equal to another race would be offended by this name.
I'm not sure what you never heard of, the term kaffir piano or that derogatory terms such as faggot, homo, chink, wop, dego, nigger, etc. are still offensive words no matter how sure you are of your status and position in society.
However, all I would like to do is create a reference for this term which I added to the list of names for mbira, because as you so blithely pointed out, it's still in the literature, so there's no telling where it might pop up again. So, strictly for clarification sake I thought it might be helpful to place a brief notation on Wikipedia to clarify the use of the term and give a very brief history of its use.
I've added references and links and cut out any extraneous material. See if it meets with your approval. Kkhemet (talk) 05:08, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
- If the content is only about a different name for an instrument now known otherwise, maybe this should be merged / redirected to that, e.g Mbira. See WP:REDIRECT? --Tikiwont (talk) 12:02, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
- The family of lamellaphones is pretty broad I really don't think that would be an effective strategy. Moreover, although this designation is out of step with the times, there's a long history of its use. I wholeheartedly disagree with the premise that mbira should be used as the generic name for this group of instruments. I myself have played mbira for over 35 years and have also been doing scholarly research on the instrument for at least a good 25, so I love the instrument. If there was going to be any kind of merger I'd put it together with lamellaphones, which is a much more descriptive term and has generally been accepted by the scholarly community as an appropriate description of this type of instrument. Kkhemet (talk) 16:07, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks for clarifying. I may have been mislead by the articles statement. "This is another name for a type of Mbir." If it isn't just another name or designation but a distinct instrument, the artcile should explain better what it is. Otherwise the designation should lead to place where it and possible variants are explained. (Potsed her form my personal talk page) --Tikiwont (talk) 16:28, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
- The family of lamellaphones is pretty broad I really don't think that would be an effective strategy. Moreover, although this designation is out of step with the times, there's a long history of its use. I wholeheartedly disagree with the premise that mbira should be used as the generic name for this group of instruments. I myself have played mbira for over 35 years and have also been doing scholarly research on the instrument for at least a good 25, so I love the instrument. If there was going to be any kind of merger I'd put it together with lamellaphones, which is a much more descriptive term and has generally been accepted by the scholarly community as an appropriate description of this type of instrument. Kkhemet (talk) 16:07, 5 August 2008 (UTC)