Talk:List of mountains of the Alps

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Subpeaks

I think there are several peaks in this list that are just shoulders of higher peaks, and I don't think we should list them here. A good definition is the topographic prominence of the peak: if the peak is less than 30 m (the UIAA definition used for the list of Alpine 4000ers) higher than the pass separating it from a higher peak, it's not an independent summit. For example the Monte Rosa Ostspitze: its prominence is only 15 m, it's a shoulder of the Dufourspitze. Thoughts? Markussep ^Talk 10:45, 21 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'd even remove the summits that are less than 300 metres high. This list should contain only significant mountains and not minor summits so it could cover more or less the entire range (there are about 600 mountains in the Alps with at least 600 metres prominence). The 300 metres criterion is apparently adopted by the UIAA (according to Summit (topography)). In addition many of the subpeaks in the list are higher than 4,000 metres and they are already listed in the List of Alpine four-thousanders. ZachG (Talk) 18:34, 5 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Done. You can see all the summits that were removed here. ZachG (Talk) 18:16, 3 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have the prominences of the mountains in the list? Might be nice to add them. Markussep ^Talk 16:21, 5 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I will try to add them to the existing articles. Generally, I have to check directly on a map, so it takes a while... ZachG (Talk) 17:40, 5 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

New list

I've created a complete list of all Alps > 2500 m and with >300 m prominence (give or take 7 m). They're at List of mountains of the Alps above 3000 m and List of mountains of the Alps (2500-2999 m) at the moment. The lists contain niceties as the coordinates (it's fun to look at the map of all coordinates by Google or Bing), prominences and first ascent years. I have all the names of key cols and parent peaks but left them out, as the pages already got way too big, even when broken in two. Perhaps Jonathan or Mark Trengrove might want to put the list with that extra stuff on their sites. What shall we do with this current page? I was thinking of making it a redirect to the two new pages and to a stub page containing the mountains below 2500 m as listed on this page. Alternatively, I could lift my introduction and stats from the >3000m list over here, followed by links to the three pages with just tables. Afasmit (talk) 22:35, 27 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, most of this page is redundant and the list you created is at higher standards. Let's make it a redirect otherwise many readers will just miss the better version. ZachG (Talk) 19:14, 20 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I just made it a redirect. But naturally you can still turn this page into an introduction with links to the 3 lists if you want, I think that would look good. We'll also have to complete List of mountains of the Alps (2000–2499 m) when we have time, but there's no hurry... ZachG (Talk) 17:29, 24 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]