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Undemocratic Unilateralism[edit]

Might I enquire as to who has taken it upon him/herself to merge Catalonia and Spain? I mean, there has been absolutely no reasonable argument in favour of deleting Catalonia from the list, beyond an unsigned "Catalonia is a country? Excuse me? Have I read properly? Please correct that inmediately (sic), that's totally unacceptable." in Countries below.
I believe my reply to have been quite rational and consider the wiping out of the Catalonia section to be absolutely irrational and undemocratic.
--YuriBCN 12:41, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

  • articles on wikipedia are meant to be as neutral as facts, so leave your political propaganda for your ERC rallies

Third party help here[edit]

Hello all - I restored "I'm the decider" with the edit summary "with nearly a million google hits to "the decider" it is pretty clearly a well known and used catch phrase. User's edits show a clear POV bias" after it was removed by User:Telecineguy. He or she then did this edit with edit summary "(with nearly a million google hits to “the most ethical administration in American history.” it is pretty clearly a well known and used catch phrase. User's edits show a clear POV bias," apparently as a response to my edit.

I'd be fine with the Clinton quote appearing there, as long as it was moved into the correct chronological order, except for one thing, the phrase "the most ethical administration in American history" has 430 google hits and "the most ethical administration" has 900. This makes it hard to assume good faith about the User:Telecineguy's intentions. However, I'd like to leave the resolution of this to a third user, who hasn't been personally drawn into it. Also I'm really curious if anyone else can find a systematic POV trend in my edits. Cheers, Debivort 20:18, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

  • I agree thank you. for the note. Telecine Guy 00:47, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
    • Still no comments here?


Third Party Opinion
Hardly any of these (judging from the U.S. list) are "catch phrases". They are famous statements, which is quite different. I don't think WJC saids "I have never had sexual relations with that womon" more than once. Not just google--trying doing a news search--LexisNexis, GoogleNews, whatever you want. People had a field day with that one--for "I'm the decider" not to be there, well, that's odd. Now about the Clinton issue, that should be here. Look at the list--the President didn't have to say it more than once to qualify--everyone else did. And everyone else certainly did. However, like forgotten Poland, it's generally remembered (and mocked with a bad accent) more simply: "I did not have sex with that woman". Fix the dates if it needs fixing. What's the other issue? Also, remember, that when you need a third opinion you can always go to Wikipedia:Third opinion Miss Mondegreen talk  08:30, July 20 2007 (UTC)

Where's "Ask what you can do for your country?[edit]

It's missing the JFK quote, "Don't ask what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country." EGarrett01 17:54, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Where's "Ich bin ein berliner"?[edit]

It's missing the JFK quote, "Ich bin ein berliner" 84.193.0.25 18:39, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Where is "I have a dream?[edit]

It´s missing the phrase of Martin Luther King. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.221.251.242 (talk) 22:30, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

How is a "catch phrase" different from a quote[edit]

Half of these are merely famous quotations. Hult041956 22:33, 25 October 2007 (UTC)


I would say that a catch phrase is a phrase that has caught on and is often repeated in regular speech. Famous phrases such as Churchill's "Never in the field of human conflict..." or "We shall fight on the beaches..." are quotations from wonderful speeches, but not catch phrases. --YuriBCN 16:26, 9 January 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by YuriBCN (talkcontribs)

By that definition, most of the US "catch phrases" are not catch phrases at all, they're quotes. Who has repeated "Actually, you forgot Poland?" in everyday speech?Sottolacqua (talk) 15:06, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

I have. Often. No one ever understands the refrence though. I always thought I was the only one that had heard it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 150.216.128.89 (talk) 22:05, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

In the section about Portugal, at least one of them is too new and long that I doubt they would fit the definition of catchphrase (Manuela Ferreira Leite's statement --- while it was widely discussed when she said it, I don't think that it is discussed a lot nowadays). Even then, what is the exact definition we should be aiming at here? "Obviamente, demito-o!" is a known quote, I am not sure if it was quoted a lot of times, but it is known (here, we could have a list of known quotes by requiring references over several years, and several years after it was first said?). "Porreiro, pá!" is more of a gaffe than anything else. But, to start with, most of that section lacks references (even if at least most of the quotes are not fake, I do remember them). I added a Refimprove. Nuno J. Silva (talk) 06:49, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

India[edit]

Since this is the English Wikipedia, the Indian quotes should be translated to English or removed (this applies to all foreign quotes. Also, I don't see what is remarkable or memorable about "we have to take india to the 21st century". Politicians say this sort of think all the time.

One more thing: Some of the quotes do not have their own article, and the article about the person who said them does not address the quote. I would like to know what was meant by "It's liquid so I drink it. If it was solid I would eat it." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.212.27.154 (talk) 04:19, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Good point. Let's try to address this in the discussion below titled Policies for being listed. Sincerely, GeorgeLouis (talk) 15:12, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Cleanup on United States section[edit]

I have deleted a large portion of quotes in the US section for three reasons.

1) This made the US section disproportionaly larger than the other countries. This is English Wikipedia, not American Wikipedia.

  • That is exactly what I was thinking. This is perhaps representative of the internet in general, and Wikipedia too. The disproportionate representation of American-ness is all but too evident in the article.Quantumavik (talk) 06:27, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

2) The list skewed to far into recent history, from the Clinton/Bush years.

3) The majority of them were posted by User:Lucky Mitch, who if you look at his profile is clearly conservative in his political leanings and appears to be trying to make George W Bush look good while at the same time demonizing Bill and Hillary Clinton. Now I admit I exacerbated the problem by adding some "Bushisms" to the list. However I feel that deleting the inflammatory quotes will maintain the NPOV rule. Richiekim (talk) 07:37, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

  • This section had gotten out of hand, I agree, but weapons of mass destruction is certainly a catch phrase. I had put in President Bush's quote about having found them (from an interview with Polish television) because it was a clearly documented use of the term. Proclivities (talk) 19:11, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
    • I've cleaned it up again. All due respect, I hardly find Bush's or Clinton's numerous utterances on the same level of importance as 'we shall fight on the beaches' or 'ich bin ein berliner' --Eadingas (talk) 10:28, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
  • "The list skewed to far into recent history, from the Clinton/Bush years." unfortunately, those are the only presidents we've had in the last 20 years. ;) Ryratt (talk) 06:09, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
    • I added a few older ones I thought of. I was trying to think of some regarding Geroge HW Bush, but I can't remember if he actually said them or it was just Dana Carvey saying "wouldn't be prudent at this juncture" and "not gonna do it." Ryratt (talk) 06:44, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Countries[edit]

Catalonia is a country? Excuse me? Have I read properly? Please correct that inmediately, that's totally unacceptable. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.35.179.67 (talk) 22:51, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

  • Nowhere does it say that the headers are specifically countries. I included Catalonia because it has a clearly defined territorial and political environment which generate specific catch phrases and are very clearly associated with Catalonia and nowhere else.
    All this is besides the fact that Catalonia is a country, although not a sovereign state (See Nation, country and state: a comparison in the Country entry, and also Pays Catalan or Basque Country as other examples of territories that are considered countries but not sovereign states).
    BTW, you say it is totally unacceptable, a clear indication of your POV.--YuriBCN 10:04, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Might I enquire as to who has taken it upon him/herself to merge Catalonia and Spain? I mean, there has been absolutely no reasonable argument in favour of deleting Catalonia from the list, beyond an unsigned comment above.
I believe my reply to have been quite rational and consider the wiping out of the Catalonia section to be absolutely irrational and undemocratic.
--YuriBCN 12:49, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

  • That is not a point to be discussed here, Catalonia by the moment is not a country as meant...and this issue isn't of general interest in an english wikipedia

Could someone translate Lech Walesa's quote from Polish? Karanne (talk) 23:19, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Reagan Quote[edit]

The full quote is "The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help'", it is currently "I'm from the government and I'm here to help." I didn't edit because I didn't know if there was a trend to just say the end, but, the quote definitely loses its meaning without it. Ryratt (talk) 06:07, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

On the same note the full quote is "Senator, I served with Jack Kennedy: I knew Jack Kennedy; Jack Kennedy was a friend of mine. Senator, you're no Jack Kennedy." I think it loses it's funnier that it's prolonged and that's what people would say when they spoofed it. I remember Keifer Southerland saying "Senator, I served with Jack Kennedy: I knew Jack Kennedy, Jack Kennedy was a friend of mine. I am no Jack Kennedy" on Saturday Night Live. Ryratt (talk) 04:44, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Desperately needs clean-up (if not deletion)[edit]

I can see why this has twice been nominated for deletion. Not really any references to speak of, no cohesion as to what belongs and what doesn't, as well as a total lack of chronology. Even if it were an acceptable entry, it probably would need to be multiple entries, broken up by country. Jickyincognito (talk) 08:57, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

What kind of multiple entries would you suggest? One way to handle this page is to go through it, phrase by phrase, and seek out citations, as I have just done for Hay que pasar el invierno. Another is to Revert any new phrase added without a Source. I doubt that another round of comments would result in a different decision as to deleting the page entirely; the best thing to do is to slowly fix it up and refuse to let new, unsourced catch phrases be added. "I feel your pain." Sincerely, GeorgeLouis (talk) 14:29, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Policies for being listed[edit]

To quell some of the dispute about this section, can we settle on some policies for being listed here? I suggest that the phrases should be:

  • at least 40 years old (with a date attached to them). This is just about two generations, so the limitation should serve to underscore that the phrase actually entered mass consciousness and was not merely a fad.
  • accompanied by an explanation that is encyclopedic in nature.
  • attributed to a Notable person (with a WP entry), even if that person is Notable only for having uttered the phrase. If there is no entry, then the editor who adds the phrase should create one.
  • cited to a source, preferably in the English language. The explanation should be cited as well.
  • preceded by a Google or Yahoo! search that indicates the phrase has gained a life of its own in popular culture and imagination.

Sincerely, GeorgeLouis (talk) 15:33, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

I agree with most of your suggestions, except the number of years. 40 years is way too much! Certainly should be more than a presidential period, but not 10 times. I would say 12 or 16 years.
I have to add that in my opinion these kind of list tend to be biased and incomplete by nature, but I don't doubt they are useful. To be encyclopedic in this case may be a little more difficult in these messy compilations, which will never evolve to a featured article. Even though I support defining policies I think imperfection is inherent and consequently tolerable here. Godot (talk) 16:33, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

MIsnomer[edit]

This is simply not a list of catch phrases. A catchphrase is a line repeatedly used by the same person or group of people as a signature theme. This is simply a list of notable quotes and soundbites, some of which have sometimes been reused by others.

The opening definition is simply incorrect "distinctive statements uttered by political figures that have gone on to become well known". That's not a catchprase.--Troikoalogo (talk) 17:03, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Agreed. Qqqqqq (talk) 21:31, 16 September 2008 (UTC)


I agree. Most of the entries in the U.S. section are merely quotes. "Weapons of Mass Destruction" could be considered a catch-phrase, and any reference to it is conspicuously absent. Proclivities (talk) 20:56, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

I also agree. This entire article needs to be redone. AmateurEditor (talk) 03:35, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

not catch phrases but famous quotes. Redheylin (talk) 02:55, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

Section Germany[edit]

Most of the sentences are well-known but not really catch phrases. The one which led me here is missing: "Gott strafe England!" (God punish England!) from WWI. - I'll correct the alleged Adenauer quote. Wschroedter (talk) 02:46, 3 January 2009 (UTC)


"Wirtschaft ist für die Menschen da, und nicht umgekehrt, und Demokratie gehört bei die Wirtschaft mit bei." (The economy is for the people, and not vice versa, and economy is a part of democracy.) Franz Müntefering[62] The second part of the compound sentence contains a "folksy" grammatical error that is impossible to translate into English. I wasn't able to find that phrase on the internet, it is not even part of the document given as proof. Being German I do not even know it; therefore I'd propose to delete it. 91.41.58.192 (talk) 21:07, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

Why the censoring of the nazi period? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.239.95.181 (talk) 21:41, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

British phrases[edit]

I'm surprised there are no quotes from the United Kingdom. Is there a reason for that? Off the top of my head I can think of

--Maltelauridsbrigge (talk) 12:58, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

This is not a list of political catch phrases but a list of outtakes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.202.122.223 (talk) 11:01, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

  • None of the phrases in the British section are catchphrases. Most are sayings that were said once and quoted by others. A few are entirely fabricated quotes ('Crisis? What Crisis?'). Two examples of genuine British political catchphrases would be Tony Blair's "Tough on crime, tough on the causes of crime" and William Hague's "In Europe, but not run by Europe". They were both used on multiple occasions. Sam Blacketer (talk) 16:40, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

Spanish Section[edit]

What is a catchphrase and what is NOT[edit]

The sentence "vayase, señor gonzalez", as well as the "por consiguiente" and all thate ARE catchphrases, so they have been used several times within speeches, but the "tres por ciento" issue, the "Soy carod rovira aqui y en la china popular" and all that are QUOTES and not catchphrases...i left the one about [Jordi Pujol]] and Josep Tarradellas cause it could be questionable, but the other ones have no place, at least here...seamos serios, por favor

United States section[edit]

Much of it is Original research and unless someone makes a compelling argument otherwise I suggest getting rid of most if not all of it. Soxwon (talk) 21:58, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

I deleted a quote from Kanye West as he is not a politician —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.196.37.178 (talk) 12:33, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

Incorrect reference[edit]

I don't know how to change it, but for the reference near "resign and hand power over to it." the link points to 104, whereas the text reads 105.

I think the link is incorrect and should be 105.

--Mortense (talk) 07:22, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

Ireland

The section on Ireland is absurd. None of these quotes could be considered political catchphrases. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.97.254.54 (talk) 22:48, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Clarín[edit]

I must remark that Kirchner never actually said the quote pointed here. After the local defeat in Catamarca he made a speech and part of it said "Tampoco vi que la Coalición Cívica haya sacado 3 puntos y el PRO haya sacado 2 puntos. Clarín, hablá con la verdad, decile la verdad a los argentinos. ¿Qué te pasa Clarín?". In english, "I haven't saw either that the Civic Coalitic got 3 points and PRO got 2. Clarín, speak with the truth, tell the truth to Argentines. What's going on Clarín". Later, at another segment of his speech, he said "Clarín: no se por qué estas tan nervioso, pero hacé democracia, usá los medios para informar y no para desinformar a la gente". In english "Clarín, I don't know why are you so nervous, but make democracy, use the media to inform and not to misinform people".

Some time later, the TV show Gran Cuñado made a parody of several politicians, including Kirchner, and the one making the parody of Kirchner started using the phrase "What's going on, Clarín? Are you nervous?" as a parody. The phrase became a catch phrase after this. But the point is, Kirchner (the real Kirchner) has never actually said it. MBelgrano (talk) 21:46, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

Canada Section[edit]

Some of what has been put in here should be removed. This is a pretty silly article anyways, but people should resist adding quotes that sound good in the moment, but that probably have no staying power. It is hard to see how Jack Layton's sweater quip, for example, will stand the test of time as well as "Just watch me," "You had an option, sir," or even "A proof is a proof." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.173.165.91 (talk) 22:37, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

Four years on, this section is no less silly.96.51.16.28 (talk) 14:37, 25 December 2014 (UTC)
I agree that some of these are not essential, but "Just watch me" is one of the most important political quote of the October Crisis.24.114.90.255 (talk) 17:47, 6 November 2015 (UTC)

Regarding Parizeau's "money and the ethnic vote" quote: It's well known that he did not resign the next day because of this quote. He resigned because his party lost the referendum.24.114.90.255 (talk) 17:47, 6 November 2015 (UTC)

Portugal[edit]

Why was that catchphrase taken out without any explanation?

  • "Granadas? Não... Isto é só fumaça. Calma que o Povo é sereno! O Povo é sereno!" (Grenades? No... It's only smoke. The people are calm!) - Pinheiro de Azevedo, provisory prime minister, in 1975 about civil war-like days in Lisbon.

78.48.160.28 (talk) 11:40, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

Clean up required[edit]

Refinement is necessary to eliminate quotes, slogans, catchwords, idioms, neologisms etc. from this list. The same can be said for the List of catchphrases. -- Cdw ♥'s (talk) 02:36, 4 November 2011 (UTC)

Since this is the english wikipedia, wouldn't it be wise to list the english speaking countries first? -- Cdw ♥'s (talk) 03:13, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

U.K. Catchphrases[edit]

There are loads of British phrases which aren't on here. Some examples are "We're all in this together", "I agree with Nick", "No more boom and bust", "Education, education, education" and so forth. Some of the ones on this list are not catchphrases - for example the long-winded one quoting the Queen. Maybe "My husband and I" is a catchphrase, but it's not a political catchphrase; and if you read the page to which the reference takes you it actually notes how the phrase fell out of use and is therefore arguably not a catchphrase in any event. 217.138.1.162 (talk) 08:51, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

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