Talk:List of rock instrumentals/Archive 1

Pink Floyd

I would like to point out that many of the Pink Floyd songs added to this list in fact do have lyrical or vocal contributions, even if they are not specifically noted within the provided album packaging. These songs include "A Spanish Piece", "Absolutely Curtains", "Alan's Psychedelic Breakfast", "Atom Heart Mother", "Careful with That Axe, Eugene", "A Saucerful of Secrets", "Pow R. Toc H.", "Several Small Species...", "Speak to Me", "The Great Gig in the Sky" and "One of These Days". I am going to remove them. I am aware that these can 'technically' be named as instrumentals, but the vocal techniques used within these songs are central to the composition of the music. Ph33rspace 01:54, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Wow, this grew fast

I remember when there was only about 50 instrumentals here. Good job guys. :D

Yeah, this page grew quickly. I didn't expect it to be this big when I created it, but hey, it's awesome. We may have to add some citations to make sure it's creditable, but it really looks good. Deckiller 03:27, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

Point of the list

And the point of this list is ... ? Wasted Time R 13:09, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

Ironically, wasting time...Stupidwhiteman 10:47, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

It's Wikipedia, boys... every bit of info counts. Anyway, can someone help me? I've got here a sound clip that is an instrumental sounding suspiciously like it was done by Metallica. If anyone can confirm or shoot this down, I'd be glad. Thanks. --Master of Puppets 03:11, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

Sounds like Mariah Carey in her speed-thrash phase to me. Wasted Time R 03:54, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

Now that you mention it... anyway, anyone seriously know? --Master of Puppets 04:57, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

That song is often available on p2p under the name "Fuck Like a Beaver" (don't ask me why) A quick google search reveals nothing but inquiries into who it's really by. Metalcore424 03:35, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

Hmm, it sounded like Metallica, but many metal instrumentals sound alike. So what should it be classified as, unknown? I'm dying to know. -- Master of Puppets ^{(MASTER! MASTER!)} 03:57, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

It's is Metallica under the name Enter Sandman II, it was recorded for Saint Anger but never got used...

Excising Instrumental-only Artists/Bands

It seems redundant to include artists such as Steve Vai, who produce mostly instrumental music in the first place, in this list. I would think the point of this list is to identify instrumental music from otherwise lyrically-based songwriters. Perhaps a list of instrumental-only rock artists should be started.

Well, it is a list of rock instrumentals, not instrumentals-from-lyrically-based artists. I understand where you're going with this, but it is, after all, a list of rock instrumentals. --Master of Puppets 05:13, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

When I originally created this list, I wanted just a list of all Rock Instrumentals. I do agree that if this list gets too long (50+ K), we could seperate it. Deckiller 23:35, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

I'm going to start adding instrumental rock band songs later today, we'll see how this list grows later.. --Drowse 19:00, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

I'd say, if it causes the list to get over, say, 50 KB, we should split the list or something. Deckiller 00:30, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

Liquid Tension Experiment is another instrumental band. It's Dream Theater, but without the vocalist. :D Mikinator

Great Gig in the Sky?

Great Gig in the Sky is not, as instrumental defines it, an instrumental. "An instrumental is, in contrast to a song, a musical composition or piece without lyrics or any other sort of vocal music;" It does have vocalizations with no lyrics, may be considered a ROCK instrumental, as there are very few non-lyrical rock songs with vocals. Metalcore424 03:35, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

For songs like Great Gig in the Sky, Limbo, etc. we could perhaps put an asterisk to note that "this song features voices but not lyrics" or something along those lines. Deckiller 23:36, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

List growing

I must say, this list has grown a LOT since it started. Nice job guys! Deckiller 03:22, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

I spent a really long time on this today.. I think my eyes are about to pop out.. I will add some more soon as I go through my music.. --Drowse 03:58, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

Keep it up and you'll get a barnstar! :) Deckiller 04:00, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

Everyone fine with SRV being on the list? I think he's just as much Rock as anything else (blues and jazz..) --Drowse 01:09, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, it's ok. Deckiller 01:09, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

Noise Tracks?

I'm reluctant to add noise tracks by rock bands.. (for example Ions (-) or Useful Idiot from Ænima).. What does everyone else think? --Drowse 04:44, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

I think those should be added too. Why, consider them as instrumental musique concrète (when noises of things are heard rather than noise coming from some electric device) or some sythesizer interlude (when blank noise is used, as in white, pink or brown noise). I'm not joking at all - some can't even imagine the effects such a track may carry, especially when one listens it as a segue going from somewhere and leading to somewhere else. (Impy4ever 04:49, 30 May 2007 (UTC))

I'd count them as instrumental tracks, instrumental tracks here being used as I understand it to mean tracks without vocals and lyrics. Eric Mushroom Wilson (talk) 16:44, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

One of These Days?

It seems to me that Pink Floyd's "One of These Days" has lyrics, or at least a lyric - "One of these days, I'm going to cut you into little pieces." Or does that not count? :-) — Dan | talk 07:41, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

The question there is to ask whether or not they are noted in the lyrics of the album, and if I do recall correctly there is nothing about lyrics in the Meddle notes.. --Drowse 19:14, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

There aren't any lyrics in the Meddle packaging. Dark Side... was the first Floyd album to include a lyric sheet, I do believe Sven945 14:38, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Great work guys!

The list is really coming along. Deckiller 14:15, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

Sources

We are going to need to cite some information, methinks, if we want to ever get to featured list status. I'll start searching tonight or tomorrow. I hate two lives, Wikilife and Reallife, meaning I spend a lot of time on Wiki. Deckiller 19:23, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

Sorry I'm just getting back on this, but the source for the ones I have submitted is the songs themselves.. I went through and checked on my iTunes through every song.. How exactly does one go about citing that? --Drowse 07:38, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

"Rock" or "Pop & Rock"

Nice List, I´m very interested! But: What´s about ABBA (Intermezzo No. 1 and Arrival), Mike Oldfield (many instrumentals!) or Jean-Michel Jarre? - Or ist Depeche Mode, Duran Duran or Elton John realy Rock? :-) Greetings from Germany!

Sure, Pop Rock is allowed on the list. — Deckiller 11:18, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for Your answer. I complete ABBA and some songs of Mike Oldfield. Jean-Michel Jarre is to difficult for me. Sorry! - In German wikipedia is (only) a small list of most famous instrumentals and most known instrumentals from film (see:[[1]]). Bye! 14:50 (MESZ), 11 April 2006 :-)

ABBA is classified under pop only on its English Wikpedia page, so I removed it.

Actually, I don't know now. They're called a pop group in the text of the article, but classified under rock and pop in the genre listing. So I don't know whether I should put it back or not.Tyharvey313 01:41, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

Malcontent and newcomer, please read below.

It is written that there are a few persons who permanently do the enriching and cleanup over this article. I found that impossible to agree, while many of the sublists didn't care much for the alphabet. Also, rigorous ordering criteria are missing in action. I thought these might apply:

• In most cases, a band will correspond to the first letter in its name. The only exception to this comes when a definite article ('the') is set before the rest of the name (e.g. The Beatles). The explanation would be that most of the early rock'n'roll bands had this prefix as a reminiscence of the jazz bands' inheritance. In such a case, the article will be ignored when alphabetizing and the first letter in the actual band name will be picked instead ('B' for The Beatles). There are no other similar exceptions, not even an indefinite article ('a', 'an'). All these will be treated as artistic licences that were totally assumed by their creator.
• A rule similar to the one above, regarding songs' alphabetical order, doen not exist. Therefore, a song whose name starts in 'the', 'a' or 'an' will match letters 'T' and 'A' respectively. If you wonder why's this, then the reason is the same as above. Just that it's more strict, while a historic reason for adding an article or any other particle before a song's name is missing. So, we'll take any of these for the songwriter's very choice.
• No other criterion will be acceped when ordering songs or bands, not even an album-oriented one. Although this would be a nice idea for some, things will become much more difficult for those who know a little less about the band they're looking for.

If you happen to agree, please take them into account. And do use them for future additions. Further comments and additions are welcome. Impy4ever 10:57, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

A Useful Resource

I object to the deletion of this page, as it serves as a useful list for music fans to browse and learn from. The criteria are clearly defined and users do a good job of maintaining the list so that it follows all established rules.

71.208.55.179 05:36, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

Separate Frank Zappa to his Mothers of Invention Work?

There are plenty of songs under Frank Zappa's section that occurred while he was with the Mothers of Invention, and that's why I added a section for them, but also adding SEE ALSO's to the bottom to the other two. Meddling 20:14, 25 June 2006 (UTC)Meddling

AC/DC's "Chase the Ace" and "D.T."

... from the album "Who Made Who" are instrumentals too

and Slash of Guns N roses has a live solo: The Godfather Theme (found on p2p network) (So i dunno if it IS official...)

-p

Karn Evil 9

Karn Evil 9 Second Impression needs to be on there, so the deletion is wrong. Meddling 00:20, 3 August 2006 (UTC)Meddling

22 Going On 23

"22 Going On 23" by the Butthole Surfers - would this count? There's no vocals in a conventional sense. However, running throughout much of the song is a sample of a discussion from a radio talk show. Can anyone else who's heard the song (or indeed anyone who just plain knows the answer) tell me if this belongs on the list? Thanks 80.6.98.250 15:46, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Fish by Yes

I'm pretty sure this song has lyrics. They are the scientific name of the fish (scanderialla pramatus) over and over again, but they are sung. Pepperjack 15:12, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Elton John - Song For Guy

OK there are some words at the end but I am sure 99% of people would say it is an instrumental. Alexandre Oberlin 14:42, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

To Live is to Die

Someone removed it from the list. Yes I know that it has a poem read during it that is listed in the album's lyrics, but I think it should be listed. It is generally considered an instrumental. Adamravenscroft 17:52, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

I myself consider also would consider it an insrtumental, but it fails to meet the established criteria for the page. "If a song has voices or a single line of voice that is not considered lyrics in official publications of the song(s), then the song may be placed on the list". We can't just make an exception to the rule because most of the bands fans generally consider it an instrumental. --E tac 18:05, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Come on, the only words start at more than 7 minutes into the song, and the words themselves are spoken and last 13 SECONDS out of 9 minutes, 51 seconds. Cut it a damn break. Every album out of Metallica's first 4 had lengthy instrumental tracks on it, To Live is to Die was a tribute to fallen bassist Cliff Burton, the poem of which he wrote. The song emits so much emotion through the instrumentals alone, 13 seconds is nothing. -- OrionTheMetalhead 19:58, 31 July 2007

One from Foreigner

Foreigner did one called "Tramontane" from Double Vision. Rrc5678 00:56, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Nine Inch Nails

Has everyone forgotten that Trent Reznor has released SEVERAL instrumentals through Nine Inch Nails? Here's a list that someone should approve:

from Broken - Help Me, I'm in Hell

from The Downward Spiral - A Warm Place

from The Fragile - The Frail - Just Like You Imagined - Pilgrimage (Features vocal sampling, however no lyrics) - La Mer - The Mark Has Been Made - Complication - Ripe (With Decay)

These of course are only the instrumentals from the primary releases, not including remix albums and EP's.

65.66.220.126 20:42, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

List of rock instrumentals#Nine Inch Nails Pomte 23:09, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Rick Wakeman

There were two entries, one under "R", one under "W". I deleted the one under "R", expecting to copy it under "W"; but the former just listed "Six Wives" (which is the album), not any particular song on the album. Lumpish Scholar 23:01, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

A few songs I'd like to add, but do they qualify?

First off, this list is GREAT so far. Well done to everybody who's contributed.

I'd like to make my contribution by adding a few ska instrumentals to the list, however there are a few I'm unsure about. These are:

"241" By Reel Big Fish, from Turn The Radio Off This song is purely instrumental except for the words "241" being shouted/sung several times throughout the song.

"Hey! Woo! Yeah!" By the Forces of Evil Like 241, this is totally instrumental except for the words "Hey! Woo! Yeah" several times throughout the song.

"One Step Beyond" By Madness. Again, this is an instrumental track with the words "One Step Beyond" repeated a few times throughout the song. This one is more controversial than the other 2, as it also has a large spoken introduction. However, I see from the list so far that generally we are including songs with spoken introduction.

So, there we go. In my mind these are instrumental songs, although they have small vocal songs. What does everyone think?

Invertedtwisted 14:19, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Hammerfall

I added Raise the Hammer from the Renegade album. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mailrobot (talk • contribs) 21:38, 16 April 2007 (UTC).

Band names and links.

I wonder why bands begining with a figure/number or just the letter 'a' are the only to have a link right to the article reserved to that very band- Someone should add all those links and I'll probably do it myself, if noone would have the time to do it for me meanwhile. I'll be back here in a few hours, but this lack of links is such nonsense that it should be solved even sooner to that. And does anyone have something against this? I haven't checked all the article's history either. (Impy4ever 04:35, 30 May 2007 (UTC))

Grr! Read *this*, please.

Why, this issue was discussed a while ago, but with no result.

I propose that we move some considerable part of this list into another, which could be called sort of List of instrumental rock artists (and bands). It is pointless adding to this list entries from Satriani and The Shadows! And even Apocalyptica. This is serious, the list however grew quite large and I fear that a noticeable percent of it belongs elsewhere. I would do that moving operation myself, but I should like to meet some pros, and especially some cons to my proposal. Thanks for your time. Impy4ever 20:36, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

I completely agree that listing all the songs by these artists is ridiculous. Perhaps a solution would be to list the artist on this list, and then if the group purely plays instrumental songs then make a note of that. If the group plays a great deal of instrumental songs but is not a dedicated instrumental group, then a link to a dedicated article (List of (Group Names) Instrumental Songs) could be given. What does everyone think to this? Invertedtwisted 22:39, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

What about Shadows Fall?

I was wondering if they should be added, because there is usually one acoustic/instrumental track on a few of their albums. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Caleb2112a11 (talk • contribs) 22:38, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Fly On a Windshield - Genesis

I don't think this song should be considered an instrumental. True, the instrumental portion of it was played in concert after Peter left, but the *official* original version does have a significant amount of lyrics.

(Also, it's called "Fly On a Windshield", not "Fly On THE Windshield".) Jphillst (talk) 19:58, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Extra song? (/doesn't exist)

Apparently there's a a song by Yngwie Malmsteen called Cantabile on Magnum Opus. A quick wiki search to the album itself reaveals no such song nor does a wiki of 'cantabile yngwie'.

Odd? Or was someone just screwing around Mattz1010 (talk) 04:06, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Killwhitneydead

Would 'Maybe Death is a Gift' count as instrumental, as there are no actually vocal parts except for a voice sample which runs throughout. Khurs (talk) 15:08, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Instead of Pointless Questions... =

Why doesnt the creator of this page or some sort of moderater or authority lay down some rules as to what counts as an instrumental There are way too many intro, outros and interludes to put on this page, you should probably only include full on songs rather than filler, just becuase filler gets a name other than intro, outro or interlude doesnt make it a song in its own right, or does it, somebody law down some rules turntablism is considered intrumental hip hop, even with all the voice samples so keep that in mind when youre judging rock instrumentals —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.32.23.165 (talk) 05:12, 26 October 2008 (UTC)