Talk:Lord Jim/Archive 1

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I am removing the following statement from the article because it seems highly problematic to me:

"Lord Jim is widely considered a post-colonial novel because it deals with Africa and Asia and looks at them through an acultural point of view."

The problems that I see:

• The novel has extremely little to say about Africa (Madagascar is mentioned peripherally three times, and that is the only mention of Africa that I am aware of).

• The point of view of the novel is far from acultural: it is entirely European.

• The novel is set and written in the colonial period, not the post-colonial period.

• As for the book being "widely considered" to be a post-colonial novel, I can find no reference to such a position on the web, except in mirrors of the Wikipedia text. I would therefore categorize the whole statement as unverifiable, as defined by the Wikipedia policies.

If there's someone who knows something I don't know about this topic, feel free to undo my deletion.67.186.28.212 23:46, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

copyright violation?

Large mass of text from the article is seen on http://www.thedailystar.net/campus/2007/03/02/classic.htm There it is dated March 2007 and the article had the same contents in late 2006. Sundardas (talk) 14:19, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

edited plot summary

I disagree with the previous editor's remark that Marlow befriends Jim and listens to his story "out of incredulous curiosity of Jim's motives." Marlow explicitly denies that his motivation is curiosity: "You may call it an unhealthy curiosity if you like; but I have a distinct notion I wished to find something. Perhaps, unconsciously, I hoped I would find that something, some profound and redeeming cause, some merciful explanation, some convincing shadow of an excuse." 67.186.28.212 15:36, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

This should be noted: Mr. Norman Sherry wrote, Conrad and His World, which profiled novelist Joseph Conrad. For it, the young Sherry went to Singapore and sifted through more than 60 years of 19th-century editions of The Straits Times to finally find the front-page story of a ship carrying Muslim pilgrims abandoned at sea by their British crew -- the basis for Conrad’s Lord Jim. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 157.157.187.157 (talk) 16:30, August 21, 2007 (UTC)

Looks like a good source for the section. Will check it out when I get back near a library that has it. --John (User:Jwy/talk) 02:54, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

Remove ending of Critical Interpretation

Right now the Critical Interpretation sections ends

"To put Jim's anguish into perspective, one must have committed in his past some crime morally or legally. Anyone who has not done so will never fully understand what Jim must do for redemption. Jim longs for his chance to restore what he lost by one single misstep (literally and figuratively). He believes that in the end it is a "debt" that can only be paid in his death.[14]"

This idea doesn't fit and reads like the poor conclusion of a poor term paper. It is not about the novel but makes a conjecture about the generic reader's experience of the book. I encourage its removal. Brooksmith's (talk) 21:17, 24 March 2018 (UTC)