Talk:Malvern Water (bottled water)/Archives/2013

New article

This new article about Malvern Water, the commercialised product, has been started using some elements from Malvern water. It is still a work in progress and much of the similarity will fade away as the article develops.--Kudpung (talk) 16:34, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Hi Kudpung, good idea. After moving "Malvern Water" to "Malvern water", I deliberately did not update all the Coca-cola related links - you can find them here. I think most of those come from one template, so updating isn't as much work as it first appears! Once you consider this page more stable (or maybe already), please redirect them to point here.

It's hard to believe that from all the assorted bottled waters, Malvern is the only one with a separate page for the spring water and the bottled product! Looking at Category:Bottled water brands for page-naming inspiration isn't very helpful. From your proposed names, I think I prefer Malvern Water (bottled water), because it clearly separates it from the free stuff coming out of the hillside, but it's not a strong preference.

While you're at it, do you have plans to write a similar page for Holywell? GyroMagician (talk) 07:53, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

I don't think it's all that hard to believe. Malvern is absolutely unique in the way its development and culture has hinged around its water, its connections to royalty - right up to one of them unveiling a new water feature. there's more than enough for two articles about it. of course, as far as Wikipedia is concerned, a lot depends on how keen a couple of editors are to write about the stuff. It's interesting to note that the most famous bottled water of all only gets a 2-line stub! I have no plans to write about Holywell - be my guest! I agree with the suggestion to move the article, but at the time (hmm, I only created it last night) was put off by the use of the word water twice in the title. P'raps Wontow has got an idea - I'll go with the majority. I have no plans to write about Holywell or any of the others. It was actually my intention to bring in mentions of the others, just as I have of those who have long since disappeared, but if you wish to get something together - be my guest!--Kudpung (talk) 15:39, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Further to the above, I've just had a message from Wotnow. He supports either Malvern Water (bottled water), or Malvern Water (bottled spring water) . I think he has done this quite independently of your comments here so I guess you guys have the consensus with bottled water, and I'm quite happy to go along with that.--Kudpung (talk) 16:37, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Greetings. And in that order. Good timing. I'd just finnished a diatribe on Kudpung's talk page, in which I explicated my thinking processes as I worked through the naming options, and was about to save this message. I did that before visiting this talk page. This is handy, because I see that GryoMagician independently arrived at a similar conclusion to me. Namely, that Malvern Water (bottled water) is the better of the options mentioned by Kudpung. Indeed, I would tend to favour Malvern Water (bottled spring water), because that gives a succinct, yet compact title which unpacks into the whole article. You probably know what I mean. The mere act of describing the title results in an artice - the very sort of article that is being created here.

After saving this message, I'll create a 'Bibliography' section, in which I'll try to list a few potentially useful sources. A bibliography is always a good thing to have at the inception of any written work. As the article develops, if material from the bibliography is incorporated as citations, the reference can be moved to the reference section. After the article has developed, the bibliography section can be deleted if all of the information in it was utilised for references. Of if some information was not used, but nevertheless looks useful for further reading, that fact itself indicates the solution- change the section to 'Further reading'. Regards Wotnow (talk) 16:42, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

P.s. I see Malvern Water (bottled water) is it. Cheers. Wotnow (talk) 16:44, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

That's it for me for now. It should be possible to say something on the history of Malvern Water, and the broader context in which it arose and exists. Where possible, I've provided specific pages which showed up when I did simple searches. For example, page 231 in Cowie & Hembry looks particularly salient. But there may be other material within these sources that is of use. The snippet-view citations are all I could find at this stage on W. & J. Burrows. But they create a thread, are verifiable, and good enough to use. Regards. Wotnow (talk) 21:02, 14 July 2010 (UTC)