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The Hebrew word "missa" is not the same as "matzah"

The Etymology section mentions 'a latinization of Hebrew matzâh (מַצָּה) "unleavened bread; oblation".' The source is Fortescue. However, the source mentions 'the Hebrew missah ("oblation")'. A clarification is in order:

  1. The Hebrew "matzah" (מַצָּה) means "unleavened bread".
  2. The Hebrew "missah" (מִסָּה) means "oblation".

Fortescue mentions only the latter meaning - not the former. The etymology section should be corrected accordingly. Thanks! --Erel Segal (talk) 13:57, 16 April 2017 (UTC)

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Methodist terminology

"The celebration of the Mass in Methodist Churches, commonly known as the Service of the Table..." I'm not sure where the article got its information. I've belonged to Methodism for half a century and I've never heard of "the Service of the Table". 76.122.86.169 (talk) 19:40, 23 December 2018 (UTC)

The use of the word "Mass"

The opening paragraph was rather fanciful in asserting that the word "Mass" is commonly used in Lutheranism, Anglicanism, and Methodism. In Lutheranism, the term "Mass" did survive the Reformation in the Nordic countries and is in use, but Lutherans outside this region use it rarely. In Anglicanism, it is common in the Anglo-Catholic movement and in some High Church congregations, but uncommon elsewhere. Methodists very rarely use the word "Mass". There may be a very few congregations that use the term, in particular if they are in Latino areas with large numbers of former Catholics. Just because a denomination permits the use of the term, such as the United Methodist Church, this does not mean it is in common use. --IACOBVS (talk) 19:35, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

Last Gospel is not part of the Ordinary Form

@Chronophobos: the Last Gospel is not a part of the Ordinary Form. The Extraordinary Form is not described in this article. Elizium23 (talk) 15:22, 3 June 2021 (UTC)

@Lizium23: But it's a part of the Extraordinary Form. Extraordinary Form should be described here, the OF is not representative for the Roman Rite. Chronophobos (talk) 22:16, 3 June 2021 (UTC)

Chronophobos, yours is a minority opinion. The Ordinary Form comprises 99% of the Roman Rite around the world. This article is focused solely on the OF. There are plenty of articles which describe the EF in good detail. Elizium23 (talk) 22:19, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
Elizium23, it is more authentic form of Roman Rite. Objectively speaking, it's still the main and most popular form, if we take in account whole known history of the Church. It is very subjective to place info on OF only in that article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chronophobos (talk • contribs) 08:43, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
  1. Learn how to sign your posts.
  2. Learn how my name is spelled, please.
  3. The Extraordinary Form is decidedly outside the scope of this article. End of discussion. Elizium23 (talk) 15:46, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
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