Talk:McKayla Maroney/Archive 1
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Importance rating
I've classified McKayla Maroney as an article of high importance due to the following criteria; Subject is extremely notable, but has not achieved international notability, or is only notable within a particular continent. This notability is due to her position on the US Women's Gymnastics team for London 2012 in addition to the sheer amount of press coverage in the US (Today Show, TIMES, Sports Illustrated, Rock Center with Brian Williams). This individual does not appear to merit top importance status, however, due to the criteria stating that the subject must be crucial to their field--in this case, artistic gymnastics. Top status is usually reserved for exercise apparatus as well as gymnastics skills, as the notability of gymnasts themselves is inherently location-biased. If anyone does not agree with this evaluation (as I suspect might be the case during and after the Olympic games, dependent upon performance/results), please discuss your concerns here before changing the importance evaluation. This will allow the community to reach consensus in an organized fashion instead of an edit war, which is a relevant fear with the traffic this article will be receiving very soon. Thanks! IShadowed (talk) 20:50, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
Overquoting
This page has a bizarre proportion of direct quotes. Kansaikiwi (talk) 09:33, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
"The meme fails to show this context."
Bizarre wording, should be removed (the last sentence in the "in popular culture" section) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 126.59.95.211 (talk) 06:11, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
Proposal: convert "Popular culture" into "Public Image"
I want to throw this out for talk page discussion, since my edit to avoid this sections problems seem to have been ignored with a simple blanking maneuver. While I agree that pop culture trivia sections to biography articles are to be highly discouraged, there is precedent for replacing such sections with highly valuable biographical sections on the way a person's public image is commented upon in media, and how pop culture then responds to this. I would point out the public image section on the biography of Barack Obama, which was so expansive that it was eventually split into its own article. Maroney has received much media comment on her personality, both in defense and in criticism of her silver medal acceptance. This is of high importance for an article on her biography, and the matter of the meme, which has now been reduced and merged into a footnote on her career, would be best expanded upon for its own notability as a reaction to her public image. We then have to sub-sections for her public image which can be expanded upon, and more are possible in the future, with her current and pending athletic endorsement deals. --Cast (talk) 02:19, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
Religion
I commented out the Irish Catholic religion denotation in her Personal Life section; hope that's alright. It is sourced by the news article but I didn't feel it was relevant so I replaced it with the athletic background of her parents. AngusWOOF (talk) 00:01, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
It's amusing, but do we really want it to be the lead (infobox) photo for this article? -- AnonMoos (talk) 06:45, 18 November 2012 (UTC)
- Preferably, the image would be best adjacent to the info on the meme (as it is right now) with a different HQ head shot in the infobox, but since we don't have one, I do think the cropped image is our best infobox option for the time being. Mbinebri talk ← 17:49, 18 November 2012 (UTC)
File:Barack Obama with artistic gymnastic McKayla Maroney 2.jpg to appear as POTD soon
Hello! This is a note to let the editors of this article know that File:Barack Obama with artistic gymnastic McKayla Maroney 2.jpg will be appearing as picture of the day on December 9, 2015. You can view and edit the POTD blurb at Template:POTD/2015-12-09. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 01:14, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
"first popular meme."
from "In popular culture" It was not the first popular meme of the olympics, there were many others. This meme started on day 12 of the olympics, there were many meme's from the opening ceremony. i.e. Picture of the Queen of england with text eluding to the hunger games or previous ownership of a country. It could maybe be said that it was the first popular in american meme of the games, but that is still subjective. It can only been truly stated that it was the first popular meme to be championed by american press (WSJ, Washington Post, Mashable).
Text should be changed from "first popular meme" to "a popular meme" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.56.200.58 (talk) 07:36, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
- I've cleaned up that section a great deal. To be honest, I'm not sure it's even worthy of a mention, let alone its own section, but I'll leave it in until someone else agrees with me. Evanh2008 (talk|contribs) 07:46, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
- I agree that the meme is not that important. There are about a million gymnastics memes on the internet and I hadn't even seen this one until now.Malluu12 (talk) 18:04, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
- Not only that but that is not even a scowl on her face. Her lips are just pursed to the side. Those are two very different things. For An Angel (talk) 18:56, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
- IMO, the pop culture section should be merged into the 2012 Olympics section as a single sentence following Maroney's quote about the fall. It's definitely not worth its own section. Mbinebri talk ← 21:27, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
- Please, folks, the "popular culture" section is really unnecessary. Like Evanh2008 said, it's not worthy of a mention. Jerry148 (talk) 09:46, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
- I removed the meme info since we seem to be in agreement that it's not important.Malluu12 (talk) 16:57, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
- I definitely think that it is important. This meme is everywhere and trending, and has definitely had significant media coverage. I agree that it probably shouldn't have its own section, but it definitely is important enough to be included in the article Mrprofdrjjjj (talk) 17:29, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
- I came to the page specifically for information on the meme. There is every reason to think that it will be a lasting source of fame for her. Not even acknowledging this makes the page worse. 208.105.238.179 (talk) 15:34, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
- We should not forget that for Internet community she has become the most popular athlete (after Bolt). Largely due to her fall and the silver medal and "not impressed". --Gwaron (talk) 15:53, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
- Considering the fact that you can't find a mention of her name anymore without hearing about the meme, it's pretty silly not even to mention it in her article. For An Angel (talk) 16:38, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
- I don't think the meme needs its own section. But since it has received extensive coverage in reliable sources, including sources such as the Wall Street Journal [1] and the Los Angeles Times [2] (both of which refer to it as the first breakout meme at least of the Olympics), it seems that it should at least be mentioned here. Rlendog (talk) 20:23, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
Its so kewl thou, coz Obama = werthy of significance Yihengsong (talk) 18:30, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
Ceasing Competition
It's interesting that in her announcement about ceasing competition she stated, “I don’t want anybody to think that McKayla is retiring. I don’t even want people to use that word.”[1] And yet that's exactly what we've done. Would it be appropriate to use a different term because she plans to continue involvement with gymnastics? Or is it appropriate to say she's retiring "from competition"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Scapulus (talk • contribs) 13:53, 25 February 2016 (UTC)