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Skatewalk, please discuss your wishes to move the page here. Don't make such moves unilaterally in the future, please. I reverted your cut & paste move, as the former term (this page's name) is much more common colloquially and in the literature. A google search shows 527 links for the former (not sure how many are Wikipedia mirrors) and only a handful (10>), with the references actually being to "Middle East, South Semitic." "East South Semitic" is also a bit misleading (as is MSA to a degree, since it implies that they are descended from Old South Arabian) as some (like you did) might think it implies a connection to East Semitic, which it does not. Take the most recent analyses on the language group for an idea of the preferred usage:

  • JOHNSTONE, T.M., 1970. A definite article in the Modern South Arabian Languages, BSOAS, XXXIII/2,

p. 295-307.

  • JOHNSTONE, T.M., 1975. The Modern South Arabian languages’, Afro-Asiatic Linguistics 1/5, p. 93-121.
  • LONNET, A. 1991. La découverte du sudarabique moderne: le Ehhkili de Fresnel(1838),

Matériaux Arabes et Sudarabiques [MAS], n.s.3, p. 15-89.

  • LONNET, A. and M.-Cl. SIMEONE-SENELLE.1994.La phonologie des langues sudarabiques modernes, The Phonology of Selected

Asian and African Languages (ch. 27), A. Kaye (ed.), Wiesbaden:Harrassowitz.

  • SIMEONE-SENELLE, M.-Cl. and A. LONNET. 1985.Lexique des noms des parties du corps dans les langues sudarabiques modernes. Première partie: la tête, MAS 3, p.259-304.
  • SIMEONE-SENELLE, M.-Cl. 1991. Récents développements des recherches sur les langues sudarabiques modernes, in Proceedings of the Fifth International Hamito-Semitic Congress 1987, vol. II. H.G. Mukarovsky ed. Wien:Beitrage zur Afrikanistik; p. 321-337.
  • SIMEONE-SENELLE, M.-Cl. 1993. L'expression du futur dans les langues sudarabiques modernes, MAS, n.s.5, p.249-78.
  • SIMEONE-SENELLE, M.-Cl. 1994. La négation dans les langues sudarabiques modernes, MAS, n.s.6, p. 187-211.

Most damningly, in the recent overview of all semitic languages by Hetzron, the language group is under the header "The Modern South Arabian Languages." — ዮም | (Yom) | TalkcontribsEthiopia 17:15, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"Modern South Arabian" not Arabic, big difference. This language is irrelevant to Arabic or South Western Semitic. In Western Yemen and Ethiopia. just noticed the title of the article. disregard! Modern South Arabian is closer to East Semitic than Southwest Semitic. Southwest Semitic is highly evolved and similar to west Semitic. Modern South Arabian is still pure on the same level Akkadian was 4000years ago! (if not proto-Semitic), keep in mind most Mahra from Kuwait or Yemen are already mixed so they will use the Arabic pronounciation (many of them dont like to speak their older langauge or prefer to add Arabic words and letters because they only have 19 letters you might not find that the case with the urbanized Mahra, but if you go to the mountains in Dhofar and Mahra you will see what I mean--Skatewalk 18:04, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]