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Disputed gross

In the last few days there has been a dispute over the film's gross. In this edit IP 103.16.70.82 changes the value to ₹40-50 crore based on this reference, noting that the gross value of 75 crore comes from the director. In this edit from IP 106.76.31.63, the value is changed back to 75 crore, citing this reference. The explanation used is confusing: "We dont consider only director starement"

Firstly, I don't know why this was not taken to the talk page by either user. It should have been. Secondly, primary sources (a film's director, an actor, a producer, a distributor--anyone directly involved) should not be used as a source for controversial data. If independent estimates can be found that support the 75 crore value, then we could present the total in the form of a range, between {{INR}40-75 crore. Care must be employed here, though, because there is a lot of shitty entertainment journalism out there. A source could simply fail to mention that the director is the source of the information, and how would we know. This is why it's important to use reputable sources. I think The Hindu fits the bill for now. Indiaglitz was added as a reference alongside The Hindu in this edit, but it's a poor choice as it is expressly indicated as an unsuitable source at WP:ICTF. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:55, 22 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Not surprisingly, IPs keep removing the tag, are apparently confused by the clear explanation in the |reason= parameter, and still haven't noticed that the templates link to this discussion. In these edits, attempts to justify the 75 crore value were supported by substandard references. Filmibeat is not considered a reliable source per WP:ICTF (note "Oneindia"). I'm under no impression that Mybangalore.com is a reliable source. It has all the markings of a faceless blog. Why someone would think MyPoojaGandhi.com is a reliable source, is beyond me. We don't use primary sources for controversial data like box office financials because primary sources like producers, directors, actors, promoters, etc. all have a vested interest in inflating box office values to sell more tickets and to make themselves look good. As noted above, the origin of the 75 crore figure appears to come from the director. What reliable source on the list of approved mainstream sources reports this 75 crore value? This isn't a difficult concept, film fans: we use reliable mainstream sources with established reputations for fact-checking and accuracy. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 07:02, 13 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Film's gross revisited

Despite my 2016 diatribe above, a closer look at the DNA reference for the film's gross reveals that the 75 crore figure came from a film critic called Prahlad Rao, not someone related to the production, which was already problematic and likely should have warranted the removal of the high figure. I don't know what expertise a film critic would have in Indian film finances and I can't find Prahlad Rao on Google News other than in the DNA article. There are other hits for the name, but they're for politicians and military figures and stuff like that. There might be a strong argument for removing the 75 crore figure. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:49, 15 December 2019 (UTC) Grumpylawnchair (talk) 16:53, 25 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]