Talk:No-ship/Archive 1

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"Specifically, a No-ship's computer is capable of enough limited prescience that it can successfully navigate its way through a fold in the fabric of the space-time continuum."

Um, I'm a little rusty on the Dune series, but doesn't the Butlerian Jihad forbid that?

RESPONSE: Indeed, the Butlerian Jihad did forbid the making of computers, however, the Ixians have, since the beginning of the series, produced technology that flaunts these restrictions, and by the time No-ships and No-chambers are being created, the strength (and IIRC scope) of the Butlerian Jihad's restrictions have been severely weakened.

A quote or reference needs to be made that demonstrates that a no-ship is visibile to the naked eye on "stand-by" mode. It is not clear in the books, and most evidence seems to point towards no-ships always being visible to the naked eye. The appear on "invisible" to prescience and long range scanners..unless it can be demonstrated otherwise....TMB

I think it is mentioned in Chapterhouse: Dune that a ship in standby mode is visible. I think it was in relation to a comment about energy usage of the ship used to store Duncan and Murbella. --ArneHD 11:04, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Shouldn't there be a mention of the minimum possible diameter? It mentions it once in either Heretics of Chapterhouse, and I think it was 40m or 140m, but I cant remember. Rockin2the70s (talk) 15:39, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

First off, there is a passage in Chapterhouse indicating that when in stand-by mode a no-ship is visible, though still un-detectable to prescience. Please note that in the following quote some of the text appears only in UK editions, while the rest of the text apears in UK and US editions. The bolded text is UK only, the un-bolded apears in both editions.

-On impulse, Odrade punched up the call symbols and stared at a projection above the table: the no-ship sitting on the ground at the Chapter House spacefield,visable to the eyes in this quiescent mode but invisible to any prescient searcher and to instruments that simulated that talent.There it sat on the ground, a giant bump of mysterious machinery, separated from Time.-

I couldn't find the passage in Chapterhouse discussing size, it may be in Heretics, or I may have just bee searching too fast.(ATOE (talk) 23:45, 28 June 2008 (UTC))

Possible illustration for article:

It might be worthwhile to add the cover illustration from the U.S. editions of Chapterhouse: Dune to this No-ship article, as the image might be a representation of the particular no-ship which serves as an important setting in the plot, and on which several important characters escape at the climax. And then the illustration might also be included with the Ithaca (Dune) article. Machine Patience (talk) 06:25, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Is that what that is on the cover?? Never thought about it. ;) — TAnthony^Talk 17:56, 2 February 2008 (UTC)