Talk:Noise rock

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April 2006 - January 2009

is pink floyd considered to be noisy? —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 02:46, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

I'm taking out an obvious plug for some crappy San Francisco band who has sneaked some accolades for themselves on the page.-- (talk) 05:15, 7 September 2009 (UTC)


90% of the article seems to be WP:SYNTH, where the majority of sources mention a band being "noisy", but saying nothing on whether their "noisiness" directly contributed to the development of this specific genre. This causes a huge problem, particularly in figuring out whether the sources actually consider the mentioned bands noise rock, noise pop, or just plain noise. I suggest that this article be "rebooted" in the same way that Experimental rock was a year ago (diff)--Ilovetopaint (talk) 15:03, 10 March 2017 (UTC)

I would agree this page is a mess and needs to be sorted out, I'm definitely in agreement about a reboot. OBLIVIUS (talk) 03:04, 11 March 2017 (UTC)

There is no consensus on this reboot with other users, so it will never or never allow it to be realized, especially since you describe "The Velvet Underground, who are credited with creating rock in 1968" without presenting any reliable source

There are 2 sources that describe White Light/White Heat with defining the genre.--Ilovetopaint (talk) 16:50, 11 March 2017 (UTC)

None of these sources say that the velvet underground created the genre "noise rock", absolutely none — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 16:53, 11 March 2017 (UTC)

Did you check them?
  • [1]: "It’s a cult classic, a first-side-first-cut favorite of “High Fidelity”’s Rob Gordon, and an all around masterpiece of melodic antagonism. So, perhaps it’s an obvious starting point, but it’s also the starting point. Period. Noise rock was born in 1968 out of an artsy New York band’s bad trips. "
  • [2]: "This is noise rock's ur-text. As for the world-historical closer, Jon Spencer sang it best: "My father was 'Sister Ray!""
--Ilovetopaint (talk) 16:56, 11 March 2017 (UTC)

Yes, but these are only opinions, you didn't cited one reliable source. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 16:58, 11 March 2017 (UTC)

Those are reliable sources, and genres are subjective, so they always come as part of somebody's opinion. See WP:SUBJECTIVE--Ilovetopaint (talk) 17:02, 11 March 2017 (UTC)

List of artists order[edit]

Would it not be better to list artist by year instead of alphabetically, or is it standard on Wikipedia to do lists in alphabetical order? OBLIVIUS (talk) 23:10, 13 March 2017 (UTC)

I've never seen a list ordered by year of formation. These lists are meant to be ordered the same way as categories (see Category:Alternative rock musicians).--Ilovetopaint (talk) 23:42, 13 March 2017 (UTC)


@OBLIVIUS: Do you have a copy of the Stewart-Panko article? If it doesn't explicitly use the phrase "noise rock", then the paragraph needs to be reworded, or kept at Mathcore (per Talk:Mathcore#question and WP:STICKTOSOURCE).--Ilovetopaint (talk) 02:17, 16 March 2017 (UTC) No I don't have a copy I just got it from the previous version of the article, so I'm not sure feel free to remove it if you feel the need to. OBLIVIUS (talk) 10:47, 16 March 2017 (UTC)