Talk:Nonce formation

I think this article may be a duplicate of Nonce word. Shouldn't it be redirected there? Thanks, Gurt Posh (talk) 12:46, 16 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

In the literature (cf. the quoted and many dozen others) it is always called nonce formation, never nonce word (as far as I know after browsing some books). so I thought that it was crucial to have this term defined correctly in the wikipedia. did you even read and understand the article? or did you just erase my work, not even including new information in nonce word?

There is a slight similarity, I agree. I just did not merge nonce word into nonce formation because I didn't check yet whether I can actually find the term 'nonce word' in the literature. Nonce word unfortunately is not even referenced, nonce formation was. Wesn (talk) 13:03, 17 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

"A dictionary of linguistics & phonetics" by David Crystal: "Nonce: a term describing a linguistic form which a speaker consciously invents or accidentally uses on a single occasion: a nonce word or a nonce formation (which may involve units larger than the word)"[1]

"Lexicalization and language change" by Laurel J. Brinton, Elizabeth Closs Traugott: "When first used for a particular occasion, an innovation is known as a noce word or nonce formation. A nonce formation is a new complex word[...]"

It seems to me as if the two are usually used interchangeably, and so one article for both (with explanation of the nuances between them, if any) is more useful and logical than two parallel articles. Fram (talk) 13:22, 17 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

By the way, nobody has erased anything: please see the edit history. Gurt Posh (talk) 13:28, 17 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

@Fram exactly, both terms have to be on wikipedia and one article may be enough. However, to my opinion it may be the article nonce formation, as the second definition posted by you picks up nonce formation to carry on with the definition after introducing both variations. btw, why don't you include your research above in nonce word and improve the article?

@Gurt Posh Thanks, I know, maybe I didn't write that correctly. nevertheless, I meant that for Jon Doe its not visible any longer. I spent time sharing information at nonce formation which may now rot in the archived article history. all these discussions and few improvements on the actual articles.

no offense intended Wesn (talk) 10:57, 18 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]