Talk:Novel of manners

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I think this page is a little limited in its discussion of a Novel of Manners. It has only Western literary tradition, which whilst the Novel of Manners is a result of this tradition it is not the only literary timeline to have a definitve novel of this type. I think this article should be developed to include novels such as Hong Lou Meng. What do the editors think? 137.205.222.240 (talk) 18:52, 5 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have added in some preliminary information on this type of novel after working on the Jane Austen article and seeing there was no definition for it Ivankinsman 10:27, 19 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You can add The Great Gatsby At least according got spark notes its a novel of manners.

http://www.sparknotes.com/lit/gatsby/facts.html

or maybe we should completely eliminate lists? What is better? I'm not sure of the purpose of the list, since there are probably many more novels of this group. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.253.249.55 (talk) 07:32, 29 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

i dont really know either  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.149.234.255 (talk) 15:55, 18 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Kind of conflicting?[edit]

The article seems to suggest that the main character in the end abides to social codes, but in the examples given, like Gatsby and Pride and Prejudice, the opposite is true. Could someone clarify? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.228.42.107 (talk) 07:09, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Novel of manners and comedy of manners, what is the difference?[edit]

There are two articles on types of novels, both terms used to describe the novels by Jane Austen, in particular. This article, and for Sense and Sensibility at least, Comedy of manners. Are these the same thing, to be merged? The differences are not jumping out at me, but may appear huge to others. It would be good if each article linked to the other, pointing out the differences. For now, I will use this category on all of Austen's novels in the infobox, adding it where not already in the genre list. --Prairieplant (talk) 11:56, 15 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Britannica has the same identical description![edit]

From https://www.britannica.com/art/novel-of-manners:

"novel of manners, work of fiction that re-creates a social world, conveying with finely detailed observation the customs, values, and mores of a highly developed and complex society"...

I think Wikipedia shouldn't copy Britannica, right? Matteozanin (talk) 09:18, 17 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]