Talk:Open secret/Archive 1

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Do take note that DARPA of US DoD is an open secret and shouldn't be argue due to the following. Although the Security of DARPA is more for technical related content than for a general audience, as what Open Secret connotate. However, not everybody who work in Computer industry agrees that the level of difficulty is equivalent university level. Also take note that Computer Literacy is regarded in some countries or education systems an important factor that is develop upon. So it is not incorrect categorize DARPA security as a Closed Secret.

The technical audience I refer to are: IT and Computer Security --75.154.186.241 (talk) 13:20, 29 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Disputed and/or misleading

I have added the disputed tag: A number of given examples are not open secrets, but either factually disputable or presented in a misleading manner. Some may even land in the realm of conspiracy theory. 94.220.248.242 (talk) 06:45, 26 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Which ones? Maybe all of them? 173.183.69.134 (talk) 05:41, 29 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

the opposite is more common

Is there an article about when something is officially confirmed but denied or even seen as ridiculous throughout the media? If there is it should be on the see also section, which is currently absent. (Just because we lack a word to describe the reverse, doesn't men we shouldn't make an article about it...) 173.183.69.134 (talk) 05:34, 29 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Area 51 open secret

The definition in the first sentence says an open secret is one "which none of the people most intimately concerned are willing to categorically acknowledge in public". The Area 51 example immediately below that says that the U.S. Government did not acknowledge it until 2013 with the release of CIA documents.

However, defense contractors like Lockheed had been using it for decades, and Ben Rich's 1996 book "Skunk Works" described Groom Lake's use as a test facility in great detail. Were Ben Rich and the others working there not "intimately concerned" with it?

It seems like perhaps the term "open secret" needs some other qualification, e.g., for a government fact, that the government itself has to acknowledge it as a matter of official policy, even if non-government workers are most "intimately concerned" with it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.185.161.246 (talk) 19:53, 24 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

wsmr

 wsmr is open to the public all of it.   nm has become a terrorist nuclear dream come true.  the only border ice patrols is around Holloman afb    Nicole Thomas  roswell nm  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.90.144.181 (talk) 12:29, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Examples is a original research

I intend to remove this section as the source doesn't mention the term "Open Secret" explicitly --Shrike (talk) 18:24, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Added a ref you might like. :-) Saintrain (talk) 18:54, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Added a couple more. Really easy to find. Much better to document than to delete. Enjoy! Saintrain (talk) 19:10, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

There is other examples that doesn't contain these phrase also its not clear why those examples what make them WP:DUE to include? --Shrike (talk) 19:35, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Eddie Lang?

Why is musician Eddie Lang in the See Also section? His biography says he made some recordings under a pseudonym to conceal his ethnicity. Is that supposed to constitute an "open secret"? Muzilon (talk) 01:20, 20 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Muzilon I saw it and immediately came to the talk page to see if anyone else knew why. As it seems neither of us are aware why the link exists (and since it is not self-evident why it is there), I went ahead and removed it. RexSueciae (talk) 23:40, 30 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]