Talk:Pagoda/Archive 1

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So, when were pagodas first built? How tall are they? How were they constructed? I think this article needs a lot more information...--Xiaphias 20:59, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

It was first built in Nepal by Araniko .

I've moved the previous image to Chiang Mai, as although it's a nice picture, it's not a great illustration of a pagoda as opposed to a stupa. Markalexander100 16:12, 14 Apr 2004 (UTC)

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multiple eaves

What this article doesn't address is the reason for the repetition. What purpose does it serve to have a roof around every floor? --Aderack 06:50, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

At least some pagoda have a balcony at each level. Having a roof at each level provides protection from rain, sun, etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.242.21.48 (talk) 01:35, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Pagoda in the United States

There is a Japanese-style pagoda in Reading, Pennsylvania---any interest in adding a link? See the "Reading, Pennsylvania" entry. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.242.21.48 (talk) 01:35, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Skyscraper-pagodas

Are you sure if the Bombardier Pagoda is a skyscraper? Watching it, I don't think so. Ferike333 (talk) 13:26, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Those aren't pagodas, right?

Multi-tiered European tower, in an European architectural style, with apparent multiple (but tiny) eaves.

Multiple tiers, multiple tiny eaves, somewhat Romanesque style.

The one on the right is generally categorized as a campanile in the European bell-tower tradition. 192.12.88.49 (talk) 20:09, 5 October 2012 (UTC)\\

The gopuram of a Hindu temple in southern India. This isn't a pagoda, either, right? Hmm. Could be. Pagoda coins were issued in southern India a few centuries ago, bearing the likeness of a pagoda.

After looking up dictionary definitions, I noticed that some dictionaries essentially defined pagodas as having to be in Asia to be pagodas, while others were more liberal geographically. The ones I agreed with most tried to cover multiple bases, defining pagodas as Buddhist temples in the form of many-tiered towers, as well as imitations of those towers. However, older dictionaries defined pagodas as being Hindu or Buddhist places of "idol worship", suggesting that the gopuram of a Hindu temple could, indeed, be considered a pagoda. In at least one old encyclopedia, the 1911 Encyclopedia Britannica, a pagoda could be a "many-sided" tower or a pyramid, or, in Asian countries, any house of worship that was neither a church nor a mosque. The term was used primarily in Asia or with reference to Asia in those days, and South and East Asians probably knew little about synagogues, so it is unclear whether the term could apply to a Jewish congregation such as, say, that of the Kaifeng Jews. The most common online dictionary definitions suggest Asian "pyramidal" towers, a problematic definition because some Japanese pagodas don't really have a pyramidial appearance. Another common definition, mostly from older dictionaries: an idol, or place for idolizing. 192.12.88.49 (talk) 20:55, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Wordnik probably has it right. 192.12.88.49 (talk) 20:55, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Wordnik has it almost right. The definition is functional, not structural. The pagoda is an evolution of the stupa, and as such it used to be a reliquary, even though it has often lost this original purpose. --Frank (Urashima Tarō) (talk) 21:44, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Global Pagoda

Someone please add the picture of the Global Pagoda at Gorai, Mumbai. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amey ambade (talk • contribs) 09:38, 18 November 2012 (UTC)

India?

This page is very East- and less South Asian centered. Am I wrong in thinking Hindu temples in general in India are/were often referred to as pagodas? The British in India used the term liberally; I don't know if that reflected local practice or was a misnomer. And the pagoda was one of the denominations of money. I had always just assumed the the pagoda was another Indian export to south-east and east Asia. Perhaps the history sections could elaborate.... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.167.71.236 (talk) 11:30, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

Lightning rod

The article says that a metal finial at the top of a pagoda can function as a lightning rod. Unless the finial is connected to an electrical conductor that reaches to the ground, it cannot function as a lightning rod, except in the sense that it can attract lightning and _increase_ the chance of damage to the building. A grounded lightning rod conducts the charge through the conductor and not through the building. An ungrounded rod does nothing to protect the building, so I don't think a metal finial should be called a lightning rod, unless there is evidence that it is connected to a conductive path to ground outside the building. Mnudelman (talk) 18:54, 20 October 2013 (UTC)

Petronas Twin Towers

In the Petronas Twin Towers article it says the structures were inspired by Muslim architecture. They don't look much like pagodas to me, perhaps we should remove the entry if there's no references. --Calibas (talk) 18:40, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

what muslim tower served as an inspiration for Petronas towers, clearly the official narrative wants to assert that petronas towers are islamic design inspired because malaysia asserts its islamic identity a lot, but a very basic search of angkor wat tower design would reveal that the design is basically pre islamic south east asian, which is itself based on indian tower designs which includes the pagodas. 60.52.45.174 (talk) 07:50, 23 November 2018 (UTC)

Merger proposal

I propose to merge Chinese pagoda into pagoda. I think that the content in the Chipanese pagoda article can easily be explained in the context of pagoda, and the pagoda article is of a reasonable size that the merging of Chinese pagoda will not cause any problems as far as article size is concerned. Mistakefinder (talk) 23:02, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

  Y Merger complete. Klbrain (talk) 13:35, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

Can't be...

The article presently states "It was spread to China and the Asian region by Araniko, a Nepali architect in the early 13th century for Kublai Khan." - and i've read the same in a number of sources.

However, this cannot be true because there are surviving pagodas in China dating from way before the 13th Century: the Giant Wild Goose Pagoda, the Small Wild Goose Pagoda, Longhua pagoda, etc. --Sumple (Talk) 07:15, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

The section is still there, I propose to delete it if nobody can contribute a reliable source. Qtng (talk) 09:27, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

I agree with the fact of Araniko bring involved with the Pagoda designs because if you look carefully at the pagodas built during the 13th century. You will definitely see some similarities with the ones in Bhaktapur, Nepal. The Pagodas that were built before the 13th Century were very original and not influenced by Nepal or the Nepali Architect but if you look at the ones in Japan for example, the ‘Toji Pagoda’ or the ‘Kofuki Ki’. You’ll definitely see a lot of similarities with many of the temples in Bhaktapur.

This specific type of Pagoda Design originated in Nepal firstly in 325 AD in the 3rd Century. You should take some time to review this. Gamerboy290f2 (talk) 08:44, 4 March 2021 (UTC)