Talk:Piano Concerto No. 2 (Tchaikovsky)

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Problem with one of the sources

The link "Information about the Concerto" was bad because that site has recently reorganised itself. On 14 July, I made it point to the correct page [1].

Unfortunately, that source is still a bit of a problem, since it makes a mess of the date of the premiere.

In the dot points, it says:

"First performed in New York, 31 October/12 November 1881, by Madeline Schiller, conducted by Theodore Thomas".

This is correct, as was recently confirmed over at Talk:Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky#Second Piano Concerto - Premiere performance. (Being in the USA, I can't see the relevance of adding the Julian date 31 October; but it's not incorrect.)

Down in the "History" section, it says:

"The first performance only took place on 18 May 1882 in Moscow [18], in the concert hall of the Arts and Industrial Exhibition. The soloist was S. I. Taneev, and the orchestra was conducted by A. G. Rubinstein."

This is incorrect; this performance was the first Russian performance, not the world premiere.

However, footnote [18] says:

"In fact, the premiere of the concerto took place in New York on 31 October/12 November 1881, by Madeline Schiller, conducted by Theodore Thomas".

... which corrects the above statement to agree with the first one.

So, they get there in the end, but this is a somewhat odd way to present information, I must say, and is likely to lead to further confusion unless the second statement is corrected (which would obviate the need for the footnote). -- JackofOz 06:12, 19 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Similar melody

Has anyone ever noticed that this concerto’s first movement theme is very similar to the main theme in Mendelssohn’s Hebrides Overture? It seems odd to me. I wonder if the overture was in Tchaikovsky’s thoughts while composing this piece. Just an observation. 2603:8080:5E0C:D075:30E7:DA03:CD17:5167 (talk) 16:22, 23 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]