Talk:Port Security Unit

Most of us don't have access to DOD Pubs

Tell us simply what it means or link it somehow. Threat levels don't mean anything to the average reader and only serves to confuse. The writer is not comunicating with his audience. As a retired Coast Guardsman, I have some idea what is being said, but I know many people wouldn't. If I knew more about PSU operations I would do the rewrite but I was just a dumbazz snipe. (Machinery Technician) Cuprum17 (talk) 03:08, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

(continued from 2009)

I agree here, also adding onto this the current writers are leaving almost no sources. I think it's fair if say its one source per paragraph but this is largely just zero sources. Sunnyediting99 (talk) 02:00, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

Hey @Hatrick24 do you have a source for the edit you made on June 28th, 2021, specifically in regards to:

"Each PSU has 6 fast and maneuverable 32' Transportable Port Securityj Boats (TPSBs). The PSU has a large suite of weapons. Each unit is outfitted with spare material, pick-up trucks, boat trailers, transportable kitchens, tents, and DoD-compatible radios. They maintain an inventory of equipment and spare parts to sustain operations for up to 90 days. Ongoing logistics support provides routine replenishment. All personnel have required individual gear for field operations." Sunnyediting99 (talk) 22:34, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

@Hatrick24 please provide citations or respond to the citation request. Sunnyediting99 (talk) 02:41, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

@Sunnyediting99: (and Hatrick24) - That quote is also currently the entire "Equipment" section. I've tagged it as unsourced. It's good that you're trying to engage with the other user on this, but really, unsupported content can be removed at any time, by any person. It could be removed right now. If it does somehow remain without any refs being attached, at some point it will be removed. All WP content must be supported. - wolf 05:54, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

Yea thanks, I was considering removing it (or just adding unsourced if no response continued for another day). I just felt hesitant on removing the entire equipment section as there might not have been any replacement and because it might break the flow of the article. Thanks though for the suggestion, I might add more "uncited" in the future. Sunnyediting99 (talk) 23:32, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

History of Port Security Units

@Hatrick24 The statement in the history section of the article that says: "Port security forces can trace their roots to World War II's Higgins boats and heroes such as Douglas Albert Munro, the only Coast Guard Medal of Honor recipient." is a stretch of the imagination and is not supported by the two citations following the statement. I would remove that statement because it is not supported but I won't for the time being because I am curious that maybe there is some connection that I can't see. Discuss this issue please. Cuprum17 (talk) 10:27, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

I second this, Hatrick24 has also made various edits where they just have not even used the correct sources or cite information that has no evidence whatsoever. I have tried to address this but they have not ever bothered to respond to my requests. Sunnyediting99 (talk) 15:39, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

Just restored the pre-revision edits, because some of the edits such as claiming that Douglas Albert Munro was where the roots of PSUs originate from is not factually supported in any of the citations they put in. @Hatrick24 please explain why you put that in. Sunnyediting99 (talk) 15:44, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

Have done joint training with them before. From my understanding working with PSU's they even had a statue of Munro. It explained similar things about their heritage. But understandable, Munro was not officially a Port Security Specialist because there was no such rate at the time. Similar to how SEALs & Special Boat Operators had no rate at their time. But their heritage fo back to UDT Teams. But it is confirmed that boat teams manned Higgins boats on battles such as D-Day & Guadalcanal. The reason many would be modern Port Security is they are the only forward deployed unit that specialized in Amphibious landings and Port seizures or Security. Having trained with them from another branch I will tell you first hand, the DOD supports their funding differently than the rest of the DHS for their capabilities. Hatrick24 (talk) 18:43, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for your response, while this is very interesting and important then, we need a verified source from a reputable website, whether it be from the USCG, the US Military, or a news article. We cannot utilize personal knowledge or state information without a source, if you could provide that then that would be great. Sunnyediting99 (talk) 19:49, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

I'll see if I can find more verifable sources. Hatrick24 (talk) 01:34, 21 October 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for adding in the sources, I am curious on both your opinions (and other feel free to join in), do you think there might be too many pictures? It's good to have pictures for an article though it felt a bit too much than usual. Still though the article is much better sourced now. Sunnyediting99 (talk) 02:17, 24 November 2023 (UTC)