Talk:Power Rangers Operation Overdrive/Archive 1

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Title Verification

The press release at Disney's Consumer Site just lists the new title as "Operation Overdrive"; no colon. We should probably get that settled before any more links to the new article are reset/made on the main PR article, or before this article's move is completed. Arrow 20:43, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Speedy deletion?

I do not understand what "History merge required from the history revisions on Power Rangers: Operation: Overdrive" means. And why would the page require deletion for this reason? Any assistance to improve the page is necessary. Ryulong 07:54, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

The edit history of this page is at Power Rangers: Operation: Overdrive, with the extraneous comma; the current title was created by a cut & paste move. The edit history must be preserved to comply with the GFDL. See Wikipedia:How to fix cut and paste moves. In short, the page will only be deleted temporarily, and it will return to its current state in very little time.--SB | T 08:00, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Oh, I apologize. I thought that the article was going to be listed for permanent deletion. I will restore the speedy deletion template. Ryulong 08:01, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Or you will do it. Ryulong 08:02, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Alright, cool. Glad we got that settled :).--SB | T 08:09, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Now I can sorta fix the cut and paste moves I did myself >>;. Ryulong 08:10, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

The Zords for PR:OO

I think it's a safe bet to list at least what the Gougou Vehicles and Gattai Machines are, as it's a safe bet that Bandai/Disney will sell the toys for all (currently) 13 Zords/mecha. They sold Bakurenoh/Blizzard Megazord from Abaranger/Dino Thunder in the states, and that mecha was only seen in the Abaranger movie, and in Dino Thunder for five seconds. Ryulong 00:48, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Why does the trivia section mention that this will be the first time we get an eight-piece Megazord? Up until the nine-piece Super Daibouken, none of the extraneous combinations in Boukenger went higher than seven, if I remember correctly. Arrow 02:38, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

I listed an eight-piece Megazord because the main Super Sentai page for some reason lists the same fact for Boukenger. Perhaps the Gougou Jet can add onto one of the seven-piece combinations resulting in an eight-piece mecha. Ryulong 02:44, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Like a DaiBouken Drill and Shovel Buster Mode. Ryulong 02:46, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Okay, its reasonable to list the vehicles and mecha if you wish, because those will almost certainly remain the same. Largely, I wanted to discourage any unreasonable speculation (that and the morphers could easily change, even though they probably won't.). --SB | T 02:48, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

I think the only time they changed a morpher was for the White Power Ranger, seeing as they didn't use any of the Dairanger stuff except for his suit and the zord footage. And that giant cannon. Ryulong 02:55, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Delay

Usually, information about the next season leaks out sometime around mid-June. It's now mid July, and we've heard next to nothing about Operation Overdrive. Have we been searching for info in the wrong places?

- ManVsMachine 4:31, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Its possible that the producers want to keep the series a secret. You know, underwraps from internet geeks like us from being able to spoil the whole series.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Rick lay95 (talk • contribs)

Or, far more likely, is that is that there is simply no information as yet available. These things do not work like clockwork, if nothing has been leaked or reported or released, it is most likely because there is nothing to leak or report or release at this time. When information becomes available, the article will be updated; until then, we (as Wikipedia editors, anyway) can only wait. Thanks.--SB | T 20:49, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Character list

Do NOT add a character list to this article. None of the character names have been proven to be correct, and they only exist as pure speculation. Speculation will be removed from any articles, especially this one. Ryūlóng 06:15, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Unless one has a reliable source for the information, then do not add it. Ryūlóng 06:26, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Seconded. Yes, there is this, but note that the poster has no evidence; he simply says "this is what the casting call says". Certainly, he could be correct, but we don't know that, and some random person on a message board is not reliable for this sort of information, even in the most liberal interpretation of what constitutes a reliable source.-SB | T 19:53, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Is there any reason that we can't have a speculation section for this. Silver95280 16:47, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Please see Wikipedia:No original research or Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not#Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. Any of the names that supposedly come from the casting websites are not confirmed, and should not be included. For all we know, the "All American Nick Lachey type" Rex will be the Blue Ranger or even the Silver Ranger. Ryūlóng 20:04, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Official Logo

Here. Technically this falls under the Reliable Source stuff linked not more than a few lines up, but the guy who revealed the logo is the same one (of two) who's given us accurate titles for episodes months in advance for the past several years. So it's probably reliable as far as the PR fandom is concerned, just not as far as Wikipedia is concerned. Arrow 20:52, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

It would probably be best to leave that off of Wikipedia for a few more months, at least until Disney has the inevitable preview/press leak. Similar to the above, it is best that we wait for anything official from Disney/PR Productions/etc. Ryūlóng 21:01, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

To anyone else who adds the logo: RANGERBOARD AND ITS USERS ARE NOT A RELIABLE SOURCE, DESPITE THE HISTORY OF THE USER WHO CLAIMS TO BE RELIABLE. Just because Kyl has found a logo doesn't make it official. Save the file, and post it again in a few months when we know it's official (this means use in a Disney and/or Bandai product). Until then, it will be removed. Ryūlóng 20:02, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Ryulong, That's basically what I been telling them since I left Rangerboard like the day following FVJ release 3 years ago. Rangerboarders, the moderators and some of the administartors are like biggest bunch of goons, it's not even funny. Burgundy as well. There like that guy Matt aka Dukemon22 who find something, but don't reveal the source or credit but yet wanna lie and say "the bords get harrassed." Crock of *hit, if that were the case, the person who reveals it to them would know longer supply it to them.

Also, concerning Rangerboard and Operation Overdrive, some of it was stolen. I'm back at Rangerboard as I used to be very fed up with there shit and they changed my name to Heinikien Piss. Then Ray Calderon sent a message that same year, like Christmas 2003 when Con, Mo, Next2, etc got together in New York. Something about blowjobs. What a homosexual! Then my brother sent them a message like earlier this week as he was being flamed, Ray or ModernRomance basically told him to fuck off. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Boukenger (talk • contribs)

I got some of the same treatment posting a question about the PRMF Japanese magazine scan, picture included. I'm fairly sure whatever moderator closed the thread did so in a way that he was a real ass to me. Ryūlóng 16:09, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

The logo originally came from a post at Fuñaroboard for the record, not Rangerboard. Arrow 17:55, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Still, Funaroboard isn't any more reliable. Ryūlóng 20:35, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Very true. I'm just making the point that problems people have had with Rangerboarders in the past has nothing to do with the reliability of this picture. I didn't mean to patronize you guys, or your experiences, in any way. Arrow 22:14, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Very true. It's just that message boards in general cannot be taken as reliable sources for pretty much anything, unless they are official. Ryūlóng 22:18, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Oh god not you. You are a KNOWN TROLL! You claimed that your "Aunt Jackie" told you a bunch of BS and that she's the story editor of PR, the real Jackie came along and quickly proved you wrong. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.131.227.22 (talk • contribs)

Kyl is a reliable source, if not, then remove the upcoming episodes from the Mystic Force page as he IS where those titles came from. Don't be hypocrites. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.157.114.231 (talk • contribs)

Whether or not Kyl is a reliable source or not is not the issue. As long as the information is listed on official websites (which Heir Apparent, Part II and The Light are [although if you insist that The Hunter is not right, then maybe that, too, can be removed]) then it will be kept on Wikipedia. If Kyl gets his sources because he works for Disney, then he has to show where he got the logo. Right now, it is still several months until any major official releases on Operation Overdrive, and as such, its logo will not be included on this article. If and when Kyl is proven right by a Disney or Bandai release, we will include the logo. Ryūlóng 00:04, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

I have included a reference to Kyl's posting of the logo at Fuñaroboard, but it will not be used inline in the text until Disney or Bandai shows anything. Ryūlóng 00:16, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

If you refuse to accept the logo as legit, then under NO CIRCUMSTANCES should the soon to be released September episode titles be posted as they come from the same source. The point he's making is not that "The Hunter" is false, the point is that if you refuse to accept the logo is legit, you have no business posting any episode titles released by BurgundyRanger and/or KyL as they all come form a source you cannot prove for yourself either. As for Ryulong, if you still don't get why your thread was closed, you are totally clueless. It was closed because it was posted at RB long before you came along and posted it. If you're wondering how he got the logo, he got it from the press contact that's right on the main press release announcing the season title. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.131.227.22 (talk • contribs)

There is a serious issue with automatically believing that someone's information is false just because they frequent a particular website. Every messageboard in every fandom has it's redeeming qualities, just as much as their bad ones. Associating any of the above information providers with certain messageboards is not only ignorant, but defeats the purpose of having any articles on Power Rangers, as most ALL information that is in any of these articles can be found on the messageboards. --JPG-GR 04:40, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

My actions on RB and my actions here have nothing to do with each other. If the information on the Mystic Force episodes come from Kyl, and if they are posted, then we will use them, as I base my inclusion for episodes if they are listed on TV.com. And if the names on TV.com come from Kyl, then I guess that's what's going to end up here. However, if you continue to attack other editors on this page, you will find yourself blocked for personal attack violations. Additionally, I see no logo on the press release that mentions Operation Overdrive, or in the thread at Fuñaroboard or Rangerboard (that mention the releases, originally; the logo was added afterwards). The original logo is huge and uploaded to his aol homepage, and has been since uploaded to various photobucket accounts. Even if it was legit, we (Wikipedia) could not track down the source, and it would be deleted for that reason, instead of being incorrect. Ryūlóng 04:45, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

I am not commenting specifically on your actions, or even on the particular situation. I am just stating an observation that, in the case of this particular fandom, much of the information on the show that is obtained before the airing of a particular episode is almost ALWAYS provided by a member of the fandom. By discreditting any member of the fandom, you must discredit them all. Some members have connections, some don't, and some have access to more information than others. I cannot speak to the accuracy or official-ness of this logo, nor will I. Just trying to open everyone's minds to the slippery slope. --JPG-GR 04:55, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Well, my response was originally to the guy who proclaims that I am wrong and that under so circumstances, etc. While it is true that a good portion of the information does come from members of the fandom (they are the ones that update TV.com), it is just that something as exact as this logo is way too unsourceable. Did Kyl get it from a press release? He may have, but we have no proof that he didn't do a good amount of photoshopping to the Boukenger logo (which it was compared to on Fuñaroboard) and on RB, there was a user who photoshopped the logo into two other variations, and she claims she even got the changes to the Mystic Force logo right. While it is right to avoid slippery slopes, it is also wrong to use material that will be a bitch to source, which the logo is proving to be. Ryūlóng 04:57, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

This is akin for the "cast lists" and "I got interviewed and they told me I should look good in lycra if I want to be a power ranger" postings at the boards. Kyl (or anyone else with connections) may find this out, but cast lists from mid 2006 won't be as useful as those in late 2006 or early 2007. I can remember that Vida's last name changed between "Grey" and "Rocca" until anything vaguely representing something on Disney aired that revealed it. Ryūlóng 05:00, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

It appears that Kyl himself showed up and editted the article. I have invited him to join the discussion here. Ryūlóng 05:07, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

This is an ultimatum, as long as you refuse to recognize the logo as official, I have decided to invoke one of the clauses when it comes to sources where the source can say his info is to be removed. I officially request you remove any info that traces back to me as the source. This includes the logo, any future episode titles at TV.com, as they have been posted by me, any future descriptions as they are also posted by me, and any info that traces back to press releases that have been posted by me from the press/affiliate site as you have no proof to their validity as the only source that comes from a Disney page is password protected. This does not include the overdrive release from the Consumeer Products site. Episode titles that trace back to me are not to be posted until they are viewable at Zap2it.com and/or TVGuide.com two weeks in advanced from the air date.--Kyl416 13:57, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Firstly, you cannot make ultimatums. Any and all edits on Wikipedia are licensed under the GDFL. Secondly, at this moment, this massive logo is unverifiable because while you may be the secondary source, the fact that it is information privy to those who have some sort of press/affiliate membership to the Disney website means that only a select few should have access to the information, and it may fall under the umbrage of original research. If the information you supply to the message boards and fandom makes its way onto TV.com, and then it comes here, then our resource for this information is TV.com, which is only slightly more reliable than information that comes from a password protected area. I have replaced the logo information in the Notes section, and I will change it so it does not say whether or not it is official or possible. Ryūlóng 21:07, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

It being from TV.com does NOT make it anymore reliable as it's the EXACT SAME PERSON who's posting it there. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kyl416 (talk • contribs)

Please see my above statement. Ultimatums are not allowed on Wikipedia. I have editted the statement about the logo so that it does not say it is official or possible, just that you had posted it, and that there has been nothing released to the public about it. If you continue to remove the information, you may receive a temporary block for 3RR violation. Ryūlóng 21:28, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

The heart of the matter

Copy of my post from RB since it sums the topic up. Wikipedia's guidelines on Wikipedia:Reliable sources isn't the problem so much as their guidelines on the Wikipedia:Image use policy and Deletion Policy are. By the rules listed in those guidelines, if the OO logo is uploaded, it can later be deleted by a Wikipedia moderator for having a source, albeit a non-public-domain-traceable one, but not having licensing information to match. Therefore, right now, we have two options. Upload the picture now (and watch it got possibly deleted by a Wiki moderator later on, at least until Disney starts including the logos in physical releases available to the common public, at which point the Image Use Policy will allow it in full), or just wait to upload it. Ryulong seems to be doing the second to prevent the first from happening. But everyone that reads this should probably put in a vote or something to decide whether they want to upload it now (and risk it getting removed) or wait. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Arrowned (talk • contribs)

We wait. As much as I'd like to have it put up (since it is an awesome logo), we wait until we have official verification from Disney and/or Bandai. It will just make things a whole lot simpler. - DrachenFyre > YOU! 12:22, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

I agree that the logo is cool looking, and the above reasons are why any new episode titles released by Burgundy Ranger cannot be used in the PRMF article (they are in the text, but not seen as I have used the <!-- --> tags around the information). Ryūlóng 20:49, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Define "verification from Bandai" JPG-GR 02:11, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Verificiation from Bandai on the logo would be its use in next year's toyline or promotional materials for the toyline. Ryūlóng 02:12, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

And that's why this has never been a problem before, because the logo always showed up on the press release at the Licensing Show every June, with the exception of this year. Arrow 03:08, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

I say we put it up now if we got it from someone reliable, which we did. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.175.160.110 (talk • contribs)

Look below. There is a difference between the dictionary definition of "reliable" and Wikipedia's guideline on reliable sources. Kyl and Burg are reliable to the fandom, but they are not reliable resources according to Wikipedia's guidelines. Ryūlóng 00:06, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

BurgundyRanger IS A RELIABLE SOURCE

If they've been right for many years (I doubt someone can guess the episode titles every freaking year), and they have access to PRESS MATERIAL, then they're RELIABLE. Let's go to dictionary.com for what reliable means:

reliable

adj 1: worthy of reliance or trust; "a reliable source of information"; "a dependable worker" [syn: dependable] [ant: unreliable] 2: conforming to fact and therefore worthy of belief; "an authentic account by an eyewitness"; "reliable information" [syn: authentic] 3: worthy of being depended on; "a dependable worker"; "an honest working stiff"; "a reliable source of information"; "he was true to his word"; "I would be true for there are those who trust me" [syn: dependable, honest, true(p)]

BurgundyRanger gets press material that are "reliable sources of information." He is a "dependable worker" cause he releases the info without breaking the 6 week rule. He is "authentic" as has been proven hundreds of times. He gets "reliable information" because they're FROM DISNEY. He's "honest" and "true to his word" all the time. He freakin fits the definition of RELIABLE. I don't know why you're going berserk and not using him as a RELIABLE SOURCE because HE IS RELIABLE. That's been proven HUNDREDS of freakin times. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.175.160.110 (talk • contribs)

We all know perfectly well he and KyL416 are completely dependable. The problem is that the fanbase is assuming when we say someone doesn't fit under reliability that we mean the dictionary definition of reliability, which you quoted. What we mean is Wikipedia's guidelines on "Reliable sources", which don't allow for people with press connections who aren't actual press members themselves to count as sources unless they're:

• At a press conference where they have photographic evidence (which is usually the case every year when Ray gets pictures of the logo from the press release by Disney with season info at the Licensing show)
• From an original report on the info, including a letter, a journalist's media account, or an autobiography. The OO logo would most likely fit under these, but we'd need to have some sort of link to the original report (not just to the Funaroboard post with the logo); putting up the logo without such a source link would likely get it removed by a Wikipedia moderator down the line.
• Secondary or tertiary sources. If KyL had gotten the logo from someone's summary of a Disney press release, then he'd count as secondary. But we'd still need a link to the original release or something to prevent a moderator from pulling it.

This entire argument could've been sidestepped if the fanbase clearly understood that the dictionary definition of reliability isn't what's being complained about here. What it boils down to is that Wikipedia has specific guidelines when it comes to this type of thing, and the guidelines may be pretty lame (as Burgundy said in an RB post, and I actually agree in this case), but this is their site, not ours. So we really don't have room to complain about their rules. Arrow 19:04, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

This whole debate is meaningless. The fact of the matter is that, as far as Wikipedia is concerned, the logo is not real until someone reveals it in an official context, that is, someone who isn't just a randon person on the internet. End of discussion.--SB | T 19:51, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

"but this is their site, not ours" -- Sorry to speak so crudely, but if you're uncomfortable with the Wiki-standards, why the [bleep] are you still doing this? Burg —Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.88.68.3 (talk • contribs)

Essentially, I was trying to speak for the people that felt that way. I don't have a problem with Wikipedia's guidelines myself, but others clearly do. Arrow 22:20, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Frankly, this complaint more or less belongs on other pages where the information Burg supplies is editted into. Again, I state no one is saying he or Kyl are wrong, it is just that they cannot be used as a resource. Ryūlóng 00:02, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Cellphones as Morphers...

Um i dont believe that the Power Rangers In Space morpher was a cell phone. It was on the wrist and had numbers on it. That doesnt mean it was a cell phone.

Check the ref next to it. It leads down to a note that states that Zhane's morpher was a cellphone. Ryūlóng 05:17, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

Johnny Yong Bosch

Johnny made a reply on his myspace before taking it down that he will guest-star in a special montage for the new season. He is not in it. He also went on AIM to say that unless him and at least Amy Jo agreed to come back that they will not feature any old rangers.

In other words Bruce wants Kimberly to come back for at leats an episode and not just Johnny but we all know how Amy Jo feels about the series.

Please, no more speculation. We know nothing until it is backed up by a reliable source. An AIM conversation or a MySpace posting is not a reliable source, and you seem to be treating this page more and more like a forum. If you want to talk about this, please go to RangerBoard, or any of the other message boards linked at the main Power Rangers article. Ryūlóng 16:55, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

Um this is an open source website, nothing can be taken as "reliable." Plus Johnny as well as Rangerboard said the same thing. Just ask him...

Wikipedia:Reliable sources. In the case of PR, published/written material (tvguide.com for instance, or agent/casting sites) and things clearly shown/mentioned on television are reliable. JYB coming back for OO can't be taken as reliable unless a news outlet, Eyeshine's website, or a post directly from JYB at Eyeshine's forums makes mention if it. Forums can be reliable depending on situation (leaked pictures of the 2007 Transformers movie come to mind), but for somthing as ambiguous as "a source I can't mention has claimed someone is coming back", a forum is not reliable. And anyways, he hasn't given a firm yes or no in response, so it's still speculation either way. Until full, unquestionable proof that he is coming back is released, there's no point in discussing things further. Arrow 20:12, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Whatever, if you say so.

Don't you feel dumb: http://rangerboard.com/showthread.php?t=96352

Don't you know that this discussion is several months old now?—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 22:30, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Logo issue.. Proof?

http://www.toysnjoys.com/powerrangersoperationoverdrive_weapons.html

That link shows the Toysnjoys, a major toy selling company has setup the section for overdrive, and the are currently using the logo Burgundyranger revealed along time ago.

Verification or more baloney? Floria L 00:19, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

If Toysnjoys got it from Bandai, then we'll use it. However, we don't know anything about where they got it. Right now, if it appears on packaging, then we'll use it (I still have the ones that BR posted on my computer). Ryūlóng 00:23, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

I was reading around on Jetix' page or watever.....

I was reading around on Jetix' page or watever you know the one that used to mention ABC FAMILY, I found a post on one of the staff's page and it said that the target date for Operation Overdrive is Monday, February 19 and ABC KIDS March 10th.

Can you back up that claim with a link?—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 00:52, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Logo

Someone put it up, im too lazy. Link here = http://tv.disney.go.com/jetix/rangersecrets/index2.html

Win. Floria L 20:18, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

Well I'll be damned. I'll upload the one I saved in a bit.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 21:47, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

Done!—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 22:06, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

Caitlin Murphy

How in the world is she from Virginia when she's an AUSTRALIAN actress?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by RangerKing (talk • contribs) .

Her IMDB profile tells us she's from Virginia.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 03:37, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Or that's a different Caitlin Murphy.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 03:38, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

It's a totally different Caitlin Murphy. Just reading the bio on IMDB doesn't fit with what the acting agency has for her expierence. That's why you don't use a third party like IMDB to get information.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by RangerKing (talk • contribs) .

I realize that now... Now stop complaining :P—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 04:47, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Who Is Tony Oliver

CHECK YOUR GODDAMNED OWN SITE

Tony Oliver—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dr. R.K.Z (talk • contribs) .

First calm down. Second, it's all from an anonymous user. Third, it's not references. Fourth, I thought he was referring to Tommy Oliver. Fifth, use the + tab at the top of the page to start a new section, instead of making one with first level headings. Sixth, sign your comments with four tildes.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 08:08, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

And seventh--finally--with all due respect, Dr. R.K.Z., please watch your language! If your trying to cuss, then all you got to do is to say "Pardon my French" either before or after you cuss, eh? That's metaphor for "excuse my language."Don-Don 17:21, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

Rasika

Wasn't sure if that was fanmade or what, but considering there's no proof, I believe it's just something someone wants. Not to mention he's the same IP that added the PROO thing to Rasikas page, which I removed as well, until theres evidence xD Myzou 00:23, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

You have no business editing Rasika's page—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.185.125.101 (talk)

Go read WP:OWN Mr. IP.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 18:11, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

I wanna read that, why?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.185.125.101 (talk)

It is relevant to you forbidding us from editing Rasika's page.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 22:10, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Since you're too lazy to go there: "If you don't want your material to be edited mercilessly or redistributed by others, do not submit it. [emphasis added]" Myzou 23:50, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

You have nop business editing her page.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.185.125.101 (talk)

Again, you have no right to tell us what we can and cannot edit. Have a good night.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 02:26, 8 November 2006 (UTC)