Talk:Pre-Christian Slavic writing
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This really, really, really needs to be renamed to "pre-Christian Slavic writing" or "Slavic runes".
- the Glagolitic alphabet was introduced by Cyrill and as such isn't "pre-Cyrillic". --dab (𒁳) 14:28, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
I propose to move this page to 'Slavic runes' for these reasons: One, "pre-Christian Slavic writing" is not intuitive and will rarely be searched. Two, both 9th century references to possible Slavic writing stronlgy imply carving (i.e. runes). Three, the Russian wikipedia article is named precisely that, so there'll be at least some standartization between the various wikipedias. Dennv. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 22.214.171.124 (talk) 00:44, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
- what on earth is "carving (i.e. runes)" supposed to mean?
- Lots of alphabets are "carved" without being referred to as runes. And lots of runic sources are from manuscript tradition.
- The Russian article is called ru:Проблема дохристианской письменности у славян, which is reasonable. Cherty i rezy could be another possibility, because this article is in fact just about this single expression in Hrabar: Note how this article isn't actually about anything.
- It is about a hypothetical thing for which there is not actually any evidence.
- Such content as we have here could easily be merged into Chernorizets Hrabar. --dab (𒁳) 11:28, 10 August 2011 (UTC)
- Agreed, cf. the Czech article cs:Předkřesťanské slovanské písmo, which also translates as "Pre-Christian Slavic Writing". The assumption that there once was a kind of unified Pre-Christian Slavic Writing is hotly debated among Slavic nationalists. Apart from the two medieval mentions, which can only serve as indirect evidence of something that might not have been a full-fledged writing system after all, there is nothing that would prove its existence. --Pet'usek [petrdothrubisatgmaildotcom] 20:36, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
This could be actual runes
Maybe these two sources actually refers to runes since both Goths and Vikings where active in large parts of Slavic countries. It would not be unlikely that the Slavs would use the runes for their own language. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 126.96.36.199 (talk) 14:38, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
Here is another strong possibility of Slavic pre christian writing using "Gothic Viking runes"; the Novogorod inscription. Instead that the message follows the Slavic language, nobody of arrogant and ignorant linguists tried to solve the message, which is in Slavic: http://www.arild-hauge.com/arild-hauge/ru-rune-novgorod1-1.gif
"KHNIAZ TB MLR " - "PRINCE (KNEZ or KNIAZ); Tb as shortened for "to biet, budet (to be) ... and two roal hands, probably representing a royal symbol and between probably a rune for this prince or leader. So the question goes, were Varangians really Swedish Vikings(Jarls). Probably not at all...
Or this inscription from Latvia; http://www.arild-hauge.com/arild-hauge/ru-rune-daugmale-1.gif "RUNAR PISAR" "writer of runes" By Volkun