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Some pictures or some drawings would really bring this article to life. Acewolf359 01:32, 13 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed, could use those on the breast page and just note them appropriately. Mathmo ^Talk 03:57, 11 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Listing of images on wikipedia of breasts [1] Mathmo ^Talk 06:13, 11 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Recent additions

I reverted the most recent series of edits because they cite no reliable sources. The two main sections that I removed are about ptosis having "grades" of severity, and a section about mastopexy. The idea of ptosis being a "deformity" necessarily requiring surgical "correction" is POV. The information about mastopexy should go at mastopexy, not here. What is this about "grades" of ptosis? Reliable sources are necessary. Joie de Vivre ^T 04:12, 20 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I got the information from a medical website.--Lord Balin 02:24, 21 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Please review the above links regarding sources. Joie de Vivre ^T 02:25, 21 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

[2] [3] [4]--Lord Balin 03:06, 21 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not convinced that the people who profit from elective surgeries on breast ptosis are the ones to ask. The condition is completely benign. It's as though an organization of estheticians offering skin bleaching were to invent "grades" of "freckle density" based on the number of freckles on the skin per square inch, with a corresponding level of bleaching treatment necessary to "correct" the "deformity". These so-called "grades" of the ptosis condition do not seem exist anywhere outside of the business which profits off of "correcting" ptosis. This could go at mastopexy, with a note that plastic surgeons have divided the levels of ptosis into three "grades". Joie de Vivre ^T 02:54, 21 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Fine, ok? All I tried to do was to improve the content of the article. And as far as editing the talk page I was adding my references even as you were answering me. But fine...I will leave your little article alone, but I suggest you expand on it.--Lord Balin 03:05, 21 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- BTW...my wife suffers from ptosis, and the pic I had in the article was her (with permission).--Lord Balin 03:07, 21 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have responded on your Talk page. Joie de Vivre ^T 03:37, 21 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Two things this article needs: addressing of the myth that brassieres affect ptosis, and something about nutritional deficiency affecting it.. My money's on protein and/or copper deficiency.

Frankly, the entire section in the article discussing mastopexy "smacks" of copy and paste from a source selling "corrective" surgery. Perhaps some re-working of that section is in order by someone well versed in the subject. Said section also contradicts the section above regarding bra use, bra wear during exercise and the progression of ptosis. There are also zero references in the mastopexy section.Wzrd1 (talk) 18:09, 1 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

There's a picture accompanying the article on the Maroon_(people), descendants of escaped or freed African slaves living in remote regions of South America, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Maroon_women_with_washing._Suriname_River._1955.jpg showing three bare-chested women with downward-pointing, flattened breasts, un-self-consciously greeting a white visitor. Obviously in their culture ptotic breasts are accepted as their natural state. I hesitate to just plunk the link in, due to racial-colonial implications of contrasting black women from a "primitive" culture with bodies some Westerners would view as ugly, against "modern" white women's breasts that Westerners view as attractive and normal. But the picture is there, perhaps a senior author with more guts than I would decide to insert the pic! Pinkpedaller (talk) 08:53, 10 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The flatness suggests Breast ironing, rather than natural ptosis.--Auric talk 15:12, 22 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Stretching connective tissues

There is no evidence for this - it should be removed. its unsupported --Michael Goodyear (talk) 22:08, 23 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Ptosis scale

It would be helpful if the Regnault ptosis scale related to the diagram captioned Stages of ptosis! The 7th (far right) outline is clearly Grade IV, and the 6th appears to be Grade III, but 1-5 do not fit Grades II or I! In fact, the caption seems to be incorrect, because 1-5 are not examples of ptosis: in all of them the nipple is clearly above the inframammary fold (IMF).

The same scale and diagram appears in the articles on mastopexy and breast reduction; if changes are made in the ptosis article they should be reflected in these articles. The Breast article includes the diagram which is captioned The seven stages of breast ptosis ... and the IMF is the inframammary crease! Wouldn't it be best to stick with one expression and use it consistently?

Prisoner of Zenda (talk) 11:32, 21 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The 5th outline would appear to be an example of pseudoptosis. Prisoner of Zenda (talk) 02:34, 19 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

breast cancer is the same as cancer in a different part of an women body 65.30.228.182 (talk) 20:49, 25 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]