Talk:Resistance training/Merger discussion

Merger of ST, RT, WT

DECEMBER 2006 - PLEASE NOTE THAT THE MERGER HAS ALREADY OCCURRED AND THE SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE, there is no need to keep voting on the subject. The substantive content that made weight training a featured article has been moved wholesale to the strength training article, all that remains on the weight training page is the information that differentiates weight training from other forms of strength training. Information has not been lost, it has been moved. WLU 15:59, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Proposed Merger

See Talk:Weight_training/Merger discussion#Proposed merger with resistance training

also posting discussion here...

Proposed merger

Mirroring Talk from Talk:Weight_training/Merger discussion#Proposed merger with resistance training

Proposed merger with resistance training

There is a large amount of overlap between the two subjects of weight training and resistance training. With the small amount of information in the resistance training, they could be merged without losing any information. Brad T. Cordeiro 02:45, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

I dissagree. Strength Training can be accomplished two very seperate ways 1) weight training and 2) resistence training. They are two totally different vehicles like a truck and a car; both are vehicles, but different. Weight Training uses free weights to accomplish streangth training and Resistance uses either hydraulic, rope, or rubber to accomplish strenght training (opposing force). I do not agree on merging the two documents. -Maniwar (talk) 03:13, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

I see your point, but if we had articles on cars and trucks, they could easily be one article on vehicles. Brad T. Cordeiro 18:15, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

I also disagree. There's a lot more to resistance training than just weight training, although it may look like it at the moment. This was more obvious before the references to the Total Gym and Bowflex were removed... GeorgeStepanek\^talk 04:20, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Brad, you totally miss the analogy. The article would be on "strength training", not wieght training. Like your analogy of vehicles, they are both "strength training" not "weight training." So I dissagree that this article should be removed. Maniwar (talk) 22:02, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

In my mind resistance training and weight training are the same thing - with weight training the resistance is provided by the weight, versus bands, rods, water, compressed air, structural properties for isometrics. In addition, they could both be bundled into strength training. A single article could emphasize the similartities of the different types of training (isometric, isotonic), ways of generating resistance (elastic, gravity) and the plus/minus of each. If the only difference is how the force/resistance is generated, and how that force is distriubted through time and joint angle, seems like they'd be best in an article where they could be compared and contrasted. WLU 20:59, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Merge of weight training, strength training and resistance training

See Talk:Strength_training/Merger discussion#Merge of weight training, strength training and resistance training

Ideally I would prefer if all talk took place on Talk:Strength training if possible, for my own ease of reference. Natch, I'm only one person and therefore at the mercy of all other users. Please have pity on me. WLU 18:18, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Since weight training and resistance training are both subsets of strength training, it makes sense that strength training be the most 'central', broadest and most comprehensive article on techniques to increase muscle strength. This page could discuss the history of strength training (mostly the history of weight training really since elastics, isometrics and plyometrics are techniques discovered only in the 20th century I believe), the adaptations of the body to strength training, benefits, risks, physiological changes, etc. Each technique used to increase strength (weights, elastic resistance, isometrics) could have a sub-heading, and main articles splitting off from strength training. This more central page could also have a brief section on the differences between each one, a short compare/contrast. Most of the information currently contained on the weight training page (history, basic principles, concerns, safety) would be moved over to strength training, but everything specific to weights (dumbells, barbells, stacks, machines, exercises, leverage, reps, sets) would stay on its own page, as would everything specific to resistance training (elastic tubing, bowflex, hydraulics/water training), plyometrics (stretch-rebound cycle) and isometrics (joint angles, range of motion). I think this is the best way to clear up confusion regarding the different types of strength training and to highlight the similarities and differences between them. WLU 18:02, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

I have no idea what I just did, apparently I reverted myself. WLU

• Oppose As a former personal trainer there are differences between the fields and there is enough there for several articles. Also Weight Training is a former featured article please don't butcher it. The one sentence summary on every featured article page states that the article shuld only be given minor alterations, basically you're deleting it and merging it's info into another article. Quadzilla99 11:26, 28 December 2006 (UTC)