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Page title[edit]

Should this page not more properly be titled Romani (disambiguation) ? RashersTierney (talk) 15:29, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Good proposal. --Olahus (talk) 14:41, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
  • Good proposal. In this article the Romani people and Romani language is mispelled as its true form is RROMANI. By using the misspelled form it associates the term to the Republic of Romania, where the gypsy community or rromies is less than >1.8% of the population (according to population statistics review in 1966 & in 2004, & DICTIONAR ENCICLOPEDIC ROMAN, EDITURA POLITICA, 1966).* The english user should use caution when typeing "România" or "români" as it cannot be spelled, because it uses a character in romanian language.188.25.107.55 (talk) 16:27, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
  • Good proposal. I agree with the user above me. "Romani" was never a term used by the "Rromani" / "Rromane" / "Rom" people. The Romans and Romanians are the rightful owners of terms such as "Roma", "Romani", etc., and they have been using these terms long before the Rromane arrived in Europe, therefore the true meaning should be placed at the top of the list as I have done in my edit. LatinWolf (talk) 23:37, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
  • The terminology used on Wikipedia is determined by common usage, not on personal preference. Searches in Google of the terms above will demonstrate the error of your position. If you think you can show otherwise, please do so. RashersTierney (talk) 15:37, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

ROMAN 1 OMAN2

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A Dab is used where there is a likelihood of ambiguity in article names. Pipe-links should not need to be used to demonstrate some connection. See Wikipedia:Disambiguation#Disambiguation pages. Note particularly What not to include. RashersTierney (talk) 12:57, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

RashersTierney, you deleted some diambigued links here. For what reason? I mean, "tidy" is not an assertion. --Olahus (talk) 16:33, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

please do not post your personal talk on the articles pages188.25.107.55 (talk)
What links are you referring to? There were links where no dab was necessary as no ambiguity arose. I am not sure you yet understand fully the purpose of a dab page and what should and should not be included. RashersTierney (talk) 16:53, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
What does designating term for Romance speaking Europe (Latin Europe) actually mean?
   * români, the plural form of the Romanian word for the Romanian (Rumanian/Roumanian) people. See Romanian language
   * Romands
   * Rumantsch

'români' is a word in Romanian - Romands is not sufficiently similar to Romani to require disambiguation ditto for Rumantsch. Olahus, your persistant reverts are very irritating and disruptive.RashersTierney (talk) 17:44, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Concerning români, wikipedia uses articles about the endonym of peoples (direct or with redirection), see Deutsche, Francais or Magyarok. --Olahus (talk) 19:05, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
Have you read the link I went to the trouble of posting , mainly for your benefit, or are you choosing to just ignore it? Please rectify your edits so that they are again in accordance with the guidelines. RashersTierney (talk) 19:12, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
RashersTierney, I created a separate disambiguation page for Români. I hope you are contented with the last changes. --Olahus (talk) 17:38, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
User Olahus, please create a common disambiguisation page if you are kind, because not all euroean citizens have â chr on keyboard 188.25.107.55 (talk) 16:27, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
I cannot type 'români' word in the US-keyboard layout, on any computer. Please be kind to allow the user to type 'romani' and have a dissamguation page with the locally-used diacritics. How do you input it 188.25.52.46 (talk) 00:25, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Sequence[edit]

Reasons for changing the sequence of the use of Romani as nationality:

  1. The "Rromane" / "Rromany" / "Rom" people cannot seem to find a correct way of spelling their ethnicity.
  2. "Romani" was never a term used by the "Rromany" / "Rromane" / "Rom" people. The Romans and Romanians are the rightful owners of the terms "Roma", "Romani", etc., and they have been using these terms long before the Rromane arrived in Europe, therefore the true meaning should be placed at the top of the list as I have done in my edit.
  • Terminology as used on Wikipedia reflects 'common usage', not 'rightful ownership', whatever that means. See Google books as an indication of how the word 'Romani' is applied in English language sources. RashersTierney (talk) 12:54, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
    • The Oxford Dictionary does not recognize "Romani" as the term for the Rromane. Instead, they use "Romany". (Check here). LatinWolf (talk) 23:59, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
      • "Romany ... (also Romani)....". Try reading your own sources! RashersTierney (talk) 00:25, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
        • As another way of spelling "Romany", not as the main way. Basically, as stated before, the Rromane cannot find a proper way of spelling their ethnicity. Why should they get the top spot? So far you're just arguing "Because it's their name!". Well no, it's not. It's just a name that they adopted when they arrived in Europe. The Romans (Latin: Romani) and Romanians (Romanian: Români) have been using these terms long before the arrival of the Rromane from India. P.S. You might want to check out this guideline. Some of your comments may be interpreted as rude or unkind. Just a friendly notice. LatinWolf (talk) 02:03, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
          • This line of argument makes no sense, and will not be getting any further indulgence on my part. And here's another 'friendly notice' - don't sock! RashersTierney (talk) 04:54, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

Inaccurate disambiguation[edit]

It currently says "Not to be confused with Romanians, an unrelated ethnic group." If we can at all talk about "related" and "unrelated" ethnic groups, Romanians and Romani are surely related if we take the linguisitc criterion -- both are Indo-European. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.10.38.40 (talk) 15:46, 27 December 2015 (UTC)

I have replaced "an unrelated" with "a different". I hope this resolves the issue. —Granger (talk · contribs) 04:23, 1 January 2016 (UTC)