Talk:Romans 8

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Predestination

It seems to me that Romans 9 is the foundational document of any Christian predestination doctrine, where Paul writes that even before Jacob and Esau were born, God loved the one and hated the other, and then he equates humans to jars out of clay, with whom the potter has the right to do as he pleases (conveniently omitting that jars are not sentient, so they wouldn't experience any suffering either way, while humans would). It therefore seems odd that this article does not mention predestination at all. Johannes Rohr (talk) 11:06, 19 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hello User:Johannes Rohr, the Bible-chapter articles were largely created in a chaotic process of copy-pasting things at random. Certainly this article should mention predestination, and other sorts of improvement are needed as well. Feel free to add material on predestination if you like. Alephb (talk) 17:31, 19 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

OK, thanks. I'll add it to my to-do list (but not necessarily at the very top) --Johannes Rohr (talk) 19:15, 19 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Come think of it, I believe the passages you're referring to are in Romans 9. This is the talk page for Romans 8. Perhaps that's the issue. Alephb (talk) 01:59, 20 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]