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Tyooan and Samba in Nigeria

A man by the name of "Chinedu Nwabunwanne," claiming to be a rabbi from Aguleri, Nigeria as well as the "foremost Afro-Jewish historian" posted the following:

"the River Benue Nigeria is the mysterious River Sambatyooan. The name Sambatyooan is a compound name that is derived from two cities along the River Benue. The names of the two cities are Samba City in Adamawa State and Tyooan City in Benue State: thus RIVER SAMBA-TYOOAN. Rabbi Nwabunwanne said there are other physical and archival evidence that excludes every other river but River Benue as the mysterious River Sambatyooan."

I looked for more information on "Chinedu Nwabunwanne." Elsewhere, he is described as an "amateur Historian and Forensic Science investigator" who "has researched this subject for more than 15 years at the UCLA libraries in Los Angeles." In another description, he is a "UCLA trained amateur Jewish Historian and Rio Hondo Police Academy trained Forensic investigator." In and of itself, I felt suspicious of whether this was a reliable source for this article, but then I found Mr. Nwabunwanne's name linked to a Nigerian email scam: "You will send the $110.00 via Western Union money transfer to the name of our cashier manager Mr. Chinedu Emmanuel Nwabunwanne."

It seems that Mr. Nwabunwanne's name is being used as an alias for a Nigerian scam operation and a false resume is being created for this persona across various sites on the Internet. Of course, the truth may be stranger or more banal. I've taken the radical step of removing the information posted in the article that cites Mr. Nwabunwanne as its source.

In addition, while I could locate a Tyooan in the Benue state of Nigeria, I could not locate a Samba in the state of Adamawa. Samba appears to be a name of a language and a region in which this language is spoken in Nigeria. Perhaps a more reliable source for this interesting idea can be located. Aharon (talk) 16:58, 16 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Akdamus

isnt there a story of the writer of akdamus (or someone else) crossing the sambatyon becauuse of an emrergency even though he knew he could never come back because pikuach nefesh is the only reason he could cross on shabbos to that side?gevaldik! 16:23, 10 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, the River Sambation is in the incredible medieval legend of the Akdamus. See "Akdamut: History, Folklore, and Meaning" by Jeff Hoffman, in THE JEWISH QUARTERLY REVIEW, VoL 99, No.2 (Spring 2009) 161-183 Aharon (talk) 17:01, 16 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

river of fire

I think I read somewhere that The Sambation is a river of fire that the souls of sinners have to traverse during the week. It's fiery flow ceases during the Sabbath so to help them we make the Sabbath longer, to help postpone their suffering. Valley2city 06:25, 21 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The Sambatyon was also mentioned by Josephus

The Sambatyon river was also mentioned by Josephus Flavius (Yoseph Ben Matityahu) in the context of Titus's treatment of the Jews. He mentioned that Titus saw the Sambatyon, somewhere in Syria. Josephus's description of the river was rather different than the sages' description, in that the river ran only on the Sabbath, and was dry during the rest of the week. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.150.187.1 (talk) 12:14, 17 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Abulafia's Journey

According to Gerschom Scholem, Abulafia's search for the Sambathion and his quest to reach the pope were two totally distinct events. One took place around 1440, the other around 1480. But maybe for an entry like this, the current information is already more than enough? Betlamed 12:18, 2 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Pronounciation

How is this word pronounced? It is not of Anglo-Saxon origin. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:45:4904:DF71:910:B97:823F:1829 (talk) 23:24, 22 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]