Talk:Second Qurei Government

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Al Ameer son, can you provide a link to the "standard on Wikipedia articles about national governments/cabinets", which says not spell the name with a capital? --Qualitatis (talk) 12:53, 8 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Here's a link about using capitalization: [1]. It might not help you with this specific case, but read it through to get a better understanding of the general guidelines on using capital letters. "Palestinian government of November 2003" is not a proper name or the formal name so "government" here should not be capitalized. For nearby examples see "Eleventh government of Israel". If you want to capitalize it, then the article should be renamed "Government of the Palestinian National Authority of November 2003" or a variation of that. I personally prefer the current naming standard for Palestinian cabinet articles, but I have no strong opinion either way.

And on a side note, I've noticed your recent expansion of several Palestinian government-related articles on my watchlist, keep up the good work. Cheers --Al Ameer (talk) 18:09, 9 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This is not a too big issue and in fact a borderline case, but I will explain the logic.

I regard Government of November 2003 a proper name rather than a proper noun (so I disagree on this point), and Palestinian as an encyclopedic adjective to distinguish from other countries, not part of the name. The name refers to a very specific and unique government. Similar to the distinction between minister and Minister. Both article names cannot be seen as absolutely good or wrong. --Qualitatis (talk) 11:29, 10 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Qualitatis: Indeed, it's not a big issue. But as far as proper names, it's not really about what you or I consider to be a proper name. The question is, what is the name that the government uses? The sources use "Palestinian Authority" and "cabinet" not "Palestinian" and "government". We're using "Palestinian government of blank" for expediency, but it's not a formal name. If you would like to instead rename all of these articles "Palestinian Authority Cabinet of blank" "Cabinet of the Palestinian Authority (month year)" I would not be opposed. --Al Ameer (talk) 21:43, 10 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

There is not such as "The sources". From the Palestinian standpoint it is "the Government" (or "the PA Government"), never "the Palestinian Government".

"Palestinian Authority Government of" is a good alternative, as it distinguishes also from the Hamas governments. Starting with Cabinet or Government would be a bad choice in view of sorting in general lists.

By the way, Manual of Style is a guide, not policy. Cheers --Qualitatis (talk) 15:22, 12 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

We should follow the MoS. It's there for a reason and it helps us to achieve a level of standardization and organization. The sources are the sources that we're using in the article, specifically, and the other reliable sources out there that we could potentially use in the article, generally. I don't have strong objection with "Palestinian Authority Government of" though, and nobody else appears to be participating here so if you want to rename it such, go ahead. However, all of the sister articles should also be renamed to establish consistency. Regards, --Al Ameer (talk) 23:15, 12 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]