Talk:Shahr Banu

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The person who wrote this page should objectively explain that this is a Shia myth and no a factual description. The way the caliph Omar is depicted in this narration matches typically the opinion of the Shia on this personnage. I would appreciate more distance and objectivity.

  1. That is why the sources of the info used to write the passage were given, so that people can check the factuality of the passage by referring to the sources.
  2. Shahr-Banu has no significance from a Sunni perspective. She is not an important figure to them.
  3. I added a comment to reflect this. (That the recount is from a Shia perspective).--Zereshk 22:28, 19 Feb 2005 (UTC)


Myth[edit]

This is a laugh. How would Ali understand Persian anyway?!! To stop Omar from killing this woman. This article clearly shows how Persians feel towards Omar. I wouldnt believe a single letter from this article.

I think It would be best to place it under the fantasy section, not the Islamic.

Yes, merge[edit]

Though I think the English form most seen is Shahrbanu, all one word. That's the form in which I see it as a woman's name. Suggest both articles be moved to Shahrbanu. The material I gave, re the academic view of this as legend, should be given as well. I'm willing to have the Shi'a POV there -- most mentions of Shahrbanu would be incomprehensible if you didn't know the story. But it should not be presented as fact. Zora 23:22, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

Agree[edit]

I told wikipedia to merge these two articles (Shahr banu and Shahrbanu binte Yazdgerd III) because I didn’t like having two articles for Bibi Shahrbanu and why wikipedians should talk about the same thing on two different pages. We should all contribute to one page and share our ideas about what we think and believe about Bibi Shahrbanu. I apologize because I wrote the article (Shahrbanu binte Yazdgerd III) about Bibi Shahrbanu on wikipedia because I thought wikipedia didn’t have any article about the wife of my 3rd Imam and the mother of my 4th Imam. I even searched on wikipedia before actually writing the article but I couldn’t find an article on her because her name was misspelled. So when I came across the other article (Shahr Banu) that as written on Bibi Shahrbanu, I told Wikipedia to merge them because I didn’t like the fact that wikipedians were writing about the same person on two different pages. So I say merge! Thank You Salman

Then merge it is.--Zereshk 15:02, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

I would like to change the name of the article to Shahrbanu. Google has 1120 hits for Shahrbanu and 681 hits for Shahr Banu. That's 61% for Shahrbanu and 39% for Shahr Banu. Shahrbanu is clearly more often used in English. We can set up a redirect so that anyone looking for Shahr Banu will be sent to Shahrbanu. Zora 02:47, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Please Remove the "Islam" toolbar from this page[edit]

Hi,

This character has no affliation to Islam. She was merely a royal princess, who was sent as war booty to medina, and made a concubine to Hussein, she wasnt even a muslim, and after bearing Hussiens child, Abdallah, she left and lived in Rey, Persia until she died. She never was a muslim.

Any evidence that she wasnt muslim?--Zereshk 21:19, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
If you believe that she's a legend, she can be Muslim or not, as you please. However -- instead of the Islam template, how about a Twelver template? A small one, not as big as the Islam one. I think the story of Shahrbanu is important to the Twelvers in a way that it isn't important to the majority Sunni Muslims. Sharbanu article could lead to other Twelver articles. Zora 21:58, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
Fine with me. Sunnis dont even acknowledge the Shia holy Imams after Ali. Let alone someone like Shahrbanu who was from a Magian background.--Zereshk 22:13, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
Do you want to make a template Zereshk? I'm sure we'll argue fiercely about what should be linked, but I think you could design a handsome looking one.
Links? Shi'a Islam, Twelver, beliefs, history, links to all imams and Shahrbanu, perhaps Ziyarat. Zora 22:17, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
What should the name of the template be? And what topics (articles) do you propose be on there? (I have to go now. Im running late).--Zereshk 22:19, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Tricky one. I dunno if there should be a template for ALL Shi'a (which includes many groups) or just for the Twelvers. If all Shi'a, then Shi'a Islam. If just Twelvers, then call it Twelver Shi'a Islam and subtitle Ithnāˤashariyya. Perhaps a good idea to get input from other editors on this. I could go either way. Zora 22:37, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Ill opt for the more comprehensive "Shia Islam". I wonder what striver,khaled, et al think.--Zereshk 17:14, 16 May 2006 (UTC)