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Reviewer: Sainsf (talk · contribs) 02:59, 24 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]


Hi, happy to take this! Also it's been long since I worked with you two, Chiswick and Cwmhiraeth :D Sainsf (talk · contribs) 02:59, 24 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks to the previous reviewer for diligently checking almost everything in the article except the prose quality, which is what my review will primarily focus on. Dablinks, copyvio, deadlinks - no issue detected. So here are my comments:

  • In the lead,
  • There is a line with an inline citation.. is the fact not covered elsewhere in the main text? Why add a ref in the lead?
  • Maybe wikilink thorax, ovipositor, larvae and pupae? I am not sure which of these would be too common in the context of this article, so I leave it to you.
  • ...used to deposit eggs under bark or in some other concealed location and In most species, the larvae develop under the bark of trees - maybe "trees" is redundant, as it is excluded in the first mention? If you make changes here note the part in Ecology too.
  • Description:
  • by having an elongate prothorax elongated?
  • not the modified forelegs of the Mantispidae Maybe "mantis-flies" would be more reader-friendly? They won't have to look up the wikilink for clarification on what fly we are referring to
  • Maybe wikilink sclerotinised to sclerotin? Similarly costal
  • "elongated" is being used a bit too frequently... probably look for alternatives? Not a must though
  • that is present in Raphidiids Should it not be "raphidiids", just like you use lower case for inocelliids earlier?
  • Some of the short sentences can be combined into a few long ones, just my suggestion to improve the prose.
  • Distribution and habitat:
  • "rich in species" is probably more reader-friendly than "speciose"
  • Life cycle:
  • "instar" is linked twice
  • In rhaphidioptiids, mating takes place in a "dragging position", while in inoceliidads, the male adopts a tandem position under the female I am confused, what are rhaphidioptiids and inoceliidads? Different from raphidiids and inocelliids?
  • Convert template needed for 0 deg C
  • Ecology
  • Maybe wikilink territorial
  • raphidiidal species won't simply "raphidiid" work?
  • I feel the small predators and parasites section should really be included in this section.
  • Predators and parasites
  • Evolution
  • "relict" is a duplicate link
  • Use "mya" consistently
  • Engel 2002 with updates according to Bechly and Wolf-Schwenninger, 2011 and Ricardo Pérez-de la Fuente et al (2012) Use commas, brackets or both consistently while mentioning these references. If possible you may add a few words introducing the authors.

The rest looks fine to me. A really well-written, interesting article. Cheers! Sainsf (talk · contribs) 07:07, 24 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • One more thing I noticed though, in the sources. I am not confident about the private "Mikko's Phylogeny Archive" source, especially with its homepage stating "Please, don't use this page as a scientific reference. This site is not peer-reviewed, and any alleged information contained herein may in fact represent whim, caprice, bias, speculation, ignorance, or simply typographical error, rather than science." Sainsf (talk · contribs) 07:12, 24 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for taking this on Sainsf. Chiswick Chap is away for a few days, so I will try to deal with your comments myself. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:40, 24 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I think I have dealt with all these points (apart from the Engel 2002 one), and I have replaced "Mikko's Phylogeny Archive" with better sources. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 21:02, 24 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Nice work :) I am happy to pass this article now. Cheers, Sainsf (talk · contribs) 07:00, 25 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]