Talk:Sonnet 29

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From the article: "The "turn" at the beginning of the third quatrain occurs when the poet by chance ("haply") happens to think upon the young man to whom the poem is addressed, which makes him assume a more optimistic view of his own life." Is he really talking about the young man here? He tells of his "Sweet love remembered", so maybe he's thinking of his mistress. Morrock 23:29, 26 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It's really annoying how some guys just assume that the poem is addressed to a man. He could have intended ambiguous gender, so it's very presumptuous to take the view that just because a few stodgy old academics want to paint this as gay, we all have to jump on the bandwagon and confirm it. Also where in the poem does it say that the subject is young? Even if we accept that it is directed at a male, why not an older male? And why could not a love between two men be "sweet"? Nevart (talk) 07:11, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]