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Estate Agent's Style[edit]

This entry suffers too much from an estate agents approach and tends to be unencyclopedic. Lumos3 01:03, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

I presume to apply a figurative pin and knife or two. What a joy of gibberish was the contradiction of "broadly focuses". Marble Hill House ain't never no way in St Margarets (3 - = 1 big -), and York House is way beyond any pretended pale. Gone is the twee "East Twickenham" beloved by Guardian letter writers.
There are other unmentioned British St Margaretses.
"Modern St. Margarets dates from the arrival of the railway in the 1850s. Twickenham's river frontage was already the site of large eighteenth century houses and gardens" What the point of "already"? Except blurbing estate-agentese? The railway to Twickenham opened in 1848, St M station opened in 1876. If something important has gone please replace it carefully but I want no reversion war.--SilasW (talk) 13:39, 3 January 2008 (UTC)--SilasW (talk) 15:24, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for removing the estate agent style blurb ... I think that made up template has to go, though. Distances are normally measured from Charing Cross, as Central London is too amorphous. Cheers. Kbthompson (talk) 14:20, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for thanking me. I hoped that someone versed in WP coding would improve on my fake "template".--SilasW (talk) 20:57, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
Generally, there's a {{otherplaces}} template, but there needs to be something to put there! Eh, thanks for thanking me, for thanking you ... we'd best stop this. Kbthompson (talk) 22:53, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

St Margarets was once largely comprised of huge houses belonging to the wealthy, especially near Twickenham Studios (known as 'The Barons') and a massive estate of rather attractive turn of the century homes on and leading off Winchester Road, which were mostly Council-owned properties. The place had a villagy feel and enough variety of shops and amenities to sustain a community. Most of the Council owned homes were flogged off under the Tories 'Right-to-Buy' policy and the houses are now astonishingly pricey and bijou. St Margaret's ceased to become anything more than a commuter bolt-hole as a result c1990. Very sad.

The Name "St Margarets"[edit]

Does anyone know where the name "St Margarets" comes from? That's why I looked for this page but there is no mention of it. (TSN)

There is a ""St Margarets Church Hall" opposite the station but that's a newish building. The people who would know are Richmond Local Studies Collection [[1]] (or Richmond Museum [[2]] - both closed today, Monday!). The Tourist Info. Office (always v. helpful) tell me that there was a St Margarets House once (or twice actually) after which that area was named. It was destroyed by a bomb in September 1940... Zir (talk) 12:39, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
St Margarets House was a large house on the site where St Margaret's Catholic Church now stands; it was originally used for Mass until the original St Margaret's Church (known to parishioners as the "Cardboard Cathedral") was built on the site which is now the church carpark. Both St Margaret's House and the Cardboard Cathedral were demolished in the late 1960s to make way for the current church. (Bengeo Bertie (talk) 17:19, 21 March 2008 (UTC))

"St Margarets" is in Twickenham[edit]

Some of this entry is incorrect, hence my change - St Margarets is a part of Twickenham. My credentials re this subject are fairly good: I was born in St Margarets in the mid-sixties, and lived in Twickenham for the next 34 years. It's not a suburb in it's own right. If you were in Hampstead, you wouldn't tell someone you came from St Margarets - they wouldn't know where you were talking about. You only say St Margarets on its own to someone from LBRUT, and even then, really depends where you are. If you're talking to someone from deepest East Sheen you might have to qualify it with Twickenham. It's like saying that Strawberry Hill is a suburb - it's not, it's a part of Twickenham. When you live in St Margarets, your address is St Margarets, Twickenham - not just St Margarets. To say that the film studios are 'actually' in St Margarets therefore makes no sense. Yes, they are in St Margarets, but it's St Margarets, Twickenham. Hence why they are called Twickenham Studios. The Twickenham Film Studios wikipeda page agrees with me: "the film studios are actually located in St Margarets, Twickenham". Now their use of actually actually makes sense... Brisco Morland —Preceding undated comment added 10:55, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

Home Pride[edit]

One swallow does not a summer make but to-day, before spring has officially begun, a Guardian letter writer was seen without its characteristic East before the Twickenham. Change, all is change.--SilasW (talk) 10:15, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Infection[edit]

I did not realise how deep the infection with Estateagentese was. It claimed good schools but a search of the list of schools in RuT shows no secondary school in St Margarets.--SilasW (talk) 10:59, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

There are no secondary schools in St Margarets. A long time ago, Orleans Secondary Modern was within its boundaries. When Grammar Schools and Secondary Moderns were abolished by the Council in 1973, the school was closed and opened in a new building next to Marble Hill Park, and renamed Orleans Park Comprehensive School - only about 100 yards beyond the 'village' boundaries. Prior to the introduction of Comprehensive education, the borough regularly topped state school education (and most private school education) as measured by entry into top universities. It is still one of the best boroughs for state education results in the UK. As a snippet, I happen to know that Glenys Kinnock was once a teacher at Orleans Park Comp! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.106.103.82 (talk) 19:33, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

Unusual chain of events worthy of explanation[edit]

From the article, my (sic) and BOLD:
"Kilmorey Mausoleum .... was build (sic) in the 1850's by the Earl of Kilmorey for his mistress. She died from heart disease a few years later ......" "and the Mausoleum was originally erected in Brompton Cemetery before being moved to St Margarets."--SilasW (talk) 17:51, 20 July 2009 (UTC)