Talk:Stansty
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Archdeacon of Derry
[edit]The following is copied from my talkpage:
Your reference for Archdeacon of Derry states: 166J. Jonathan Edwards, LL. D. a Prebendary of Kilkenny, and Chancellor of Ferns, was installed on February 16. (ff.) He appears in 1679; but I have not learned when he ceased to be Archdeacon. This does not mention Derry but I note it's within a section with a title of "Derry". At the risk of being accused of policy shopping, to claim this referecne supports Archdeacon of Derry is WP:SYN. There are references for Londonderry and for Derry. I suggest you get expert advice on the title he acquired at installation. I'll leave it a couple of days then revert if no definitive reference or expert advice is forthcoming. LevenBoy (talk) 19:22, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
- Perhaps you could supply the references you talk about at either the talk page of the article of Stansty or at Jonathan Edwards (archdeacon). Please do not remove reference material, take it to the talk page of the article. Removal of reference material can be consider as vandalism.Bjmullan (talk) 20:04, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
- Only if the reference is actually a reference. Yours isn't, in that it does not support the point you're making. LevenBoy (talk) 21:08, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
- That's for debate at the talk pages above. Please take your discuss there. Thank you. Bjmullan (talk) 21:11, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
- You mean like you did? No, you have made a change, I applied WP:BRD and you then edit warred to put it back without discussion. You should have proposed the reference at Talk where its inadequacies or otherwise could have been discussed. Now the onus is on you to provide a suitable reference. Iwill revert it in two days time if you don't come up with anything - so start looking! LevenBoy (talk) 22:22, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
- For the LAST time take this to the talk page of the articles. I have included a reference (as requested), if you are unsure of the diocese where he was an archdeacon I suggest you try page 307 of the book, it's title is "Diocese of Derry" and scroll from there to page 337 (or do you consider scrolling SYN?). The whole book is a list of Bishops/Deans/Archdeacons/etc for all the the diocese of Ulster. If you to not agree with the reference then provide another one at the talk page. I will not be answering any further comments on this subject here. Thank you and good night.Bjmullan (talk) 22:52, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
I believe the reference that I have provide is valid but would welcome input from other edits. Bjmullan (talk) 22:59, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
- Just to make sure I have added an additional reference which clearly states: P. 302, 1. 21—J. Edwards became Chancellor of Ferns in the same month of February, and Archdeacon of Derry in 1664. Bjmullan (talk) 19:32, 29 September 2010 (UTC)