The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the move request was: Not moved. Jafeluv (talk) 09:46, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
Oppose. Clearly this is the main meaning of the term, and CfD has absolutely no jurisdiction over article names. As it happens I agree that the category name is better with the 'stars', but that doesn't mean the article name would be. Modest Geniustalk 23:46, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
What is the average duration of a subgiant phase for Sun-like stars compared to red giant phase? --Artman40 (talk) 00:04, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
For a star like the sun, the subgiant phase is actually longer than the red giant phase! 2GYr is typical, less than 1 GYr for the red giant phase. Much of the time on the subgiant branch is spent very close to the main sequence while the hydrogen shell is slowly adding mass to the helium core. Once the core becomes degenerate the core temperature increases and the luminosity increases dramatically, so the time until the helium flash is relatively short. The opposite is true of more massive stars. Lithopsian (talk) 00:08, 25 April 2016 (UTC)
Some historical research has just been published on the early studies of subgiants . Might be a useful source for this article. Modest Geniustalk 17:52, 17 May 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for that, I hadn't seen this paper. Not quite the world-changer it is heralded as though. Those Mt Wilson subgiants were known and reported many years earlier, as mentioned in the article. The new news is really just that Gamow missed the opportunity to use them to redefine stellar evolution a decade earlier than Sandage did. It would be a good source if someone wants to write a detailed history section. Lithopsian (talk) 10:49, 18 May 2016 (UTC)