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Swedes in Germany 30,000 in 2021
[edit]30,000 Swedes live in Germany Linus Hagenbach (talk) 08:15, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
- You need a source if you want to put that in the article. Sjö (talk) 10:52, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
- Wikipedia Editor Linus Hagenbach is not a reliable source. TylerBurden (talk) 17:36, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
Finlandswedes
[edit]Should Swedish-Speaking Finns be included here? In the Swedish Wikipedia they are not considered Swedes. They are mentioned but only as speakers of Swedish (though they don't even consider Swedes an ethnicity). In the Finnish Wikipedia meanwhile they are considered Swedes and do not appear in the Finns article, much like in the English Wikipedia. However from what I have heard from Finlandswedes themselves, they don't consider themselves Swedish, instead just Finns who speak Swedish. Also many Finlandswedes have completely Finnish origins, as many Finns changed their language to Swedish to climb up the social ladder. Finlandestonia (talk) 11:46, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
- No, because they are not part of the ethnic group that is Swedes, which according to the lead is what the article is about. But if you check the article, Finland-Swedes are included on it. TylerBurden (talk) 00:44, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
Swedish Walloon
[edit]Should we include a mention of the Walloon component of the Swedes? IMO it's different from e.g. the Swedish-Speaking Finns discussed in the above section, because the Walloon origin is a component of the modern Swede; they are not a separate ethnic group. David Groningen (talk) 16:58, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
- From Walloons: "Gallo-Romance ethnic group native to Wallonia and the immediate adjacent regions of France". TylerBurden (talk) 11:31, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
- @TylerBurden Yep, those are the Walloons. Some thousand of the came to Sweden in c. 1595/1650. They mixed with the "Renaissance Swedes", and as a result today some hundred thousand (possibly close to one million) of Swedes are of Walloon ancestry. Since they are a component of many a modern Swede, I wonder whether we should mention this fact in this article. David Groningen (talk) 22:08, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
- But they are a seperate ethnic group, not the North Germanic Nordic one this article is meant to be about. TylerBurden (talk) 14:44, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
- @TylerBurden Yep, those are the Walloons. Some thousand of the came to Sweden in c. 1595/1650. They mixed with the "Renaissance Swedes", and as a result today some hundred thousand (possibly close to one million) of Swedes are of Walloon ancestry. Since they are a component of many a modern Swede, I wonder whether we should mention this fact in this article. David Groningen (talk) 22:08, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
Further Reading
[edit]The further reading section contained only a single article that was neither academic or frankly appropriate and this it was removed. AevumNova (talk) 05:02, 23 November 2023 (UTC)
North Germanic ?
[edit]@Zyxrq: I think your addition of "Germanic" or "Scandinavic" with a link to "North Germanic peoples" is wrong for two reasons: a) There is no source for that. b) The last "North Germanic people" covered in the history section of that article are those Scandinavian Greenlanders who died out at the end of the Middle Ages. There was a similar discussion at Talk:Danes#North_Germanic_? some time ago. Rsk6400 (talk) 17:13, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Rsk6400 go to the Talk:North Germanic peoples#"North Germanic peoples" change to "Scandinavians"? and Talk:North Germanic peoples#Ethnic group
Zyxrq (talk) 19:26, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
- Why ? Rsk6400 (talk) 07:03, 27 February 2024 (UTC)