Talk:The Fallen Idol (film)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 05:18, 21 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It should be noted that, despite the information to the contrary that someone has added to The Fallen Idol page, although Belgrave Square, London, was used as a location in The Fallen Idol, the 'Bloomsbury Square' set in 'Oliver!" was built entirely on the backlot at Shepperton Studios in Surrey. [[DavidRayner (talk)DavidRaynerDavidRayner (talk)]].

France as the embassy

Though never specifically identifying it as such, France is strongly siggested to be the French-speaking nation whose embassy is at the center of the story.

For example, in lieu of a French flag being struck at the embassy upon the ambassador's departure to retrieve his invalided wife at the very onset of the movie, the notional Acadian flag was used - a French flag with merely a gold star in its upper corner:

Further, not only are all the main characters associated with the embassy (but the clearly British Bainses, members of its domestic staff) overtly "Continental" (and conspicuously not French-speaking African, Caribbean, South American, or South Pacific nationals), references are made throughout the film to the ambassador's "frequent absences" (as would be possible and likely tending to affairs just across the Channel, but not in other far-flung French-speaking overseas departments or nations in the days still of ocean transit and propeller aircraft).

Similarly, when Baines learns that Julie wishes to leave him and has already booked passage, he asks her if she is leaving on the Newhaven-Dieppe ferry to France or the Dover-Calais - and is told the latter. At the zoo the next day he learns she is taking the boat-train across the Channel. With it being strongly implied there and elsewhere (as in Baines making reference to Julie of her returning to "her home country") it will take to be her native land, not an intermediate destination.

Last, (in spite of the curious casting of a German as the ambassador and a Czech as the First Secretary) there is little reason to impute the story actually meant to be referring to other at least in part officially French-speaking European nations (such as Belgium and Switzerland), not with the conspicuous use of the Acadian flag and repeated indirect references to France (such as taking the boat-train across the Channel home, with absolutely no implication Julie (played by the Parisian-born Michelle Morgan, who speaks fluent French repeatedly in the movie, as did Calvados-born Bobby Henrey - who, according to his biography here was chosen in strong part by Carol Reed for his "liquid French accent") will continue on to a foreign land after landing in France). 2601:196:181:BE00:39FA:2DCB:C182:5B0F (talk) 18:53, 16 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]