Talk:The War at Home (TV series)

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Ridiculous Criticism on this show...

>>Less plot-related criticisms are that the show is supposed to take place in Nassau County on Long Island. >>This can be seen when during one scene of the show the 516 area code appears, which is the area code of >>Nassau County. Most people who live on Long Island would generally agree that the setting of the show is not >>in touch with Long Island.

Why is it not in touch with long island. Long island (where I've lived for many many years)is suburbia, the setting of the show is suburbia.

>Most areas of Long Island with houses that appear like Dave's do not appear in racially diverse >neighborhoods. The chances of Dave or his daughter being in such close contact with African Americans is >somewhat unlikely based on the racial demographics of the hamlets and villages on Long Island. Local ?>newspapers such as Newsday have cited Long Island villages and hamlets for their lack of diversity. Several >actors also lack a Long Island dialect, though many residents of Long Island do not have the typical distinct >Long Island accent.

Couldn't be further from the truth... Ridiculous —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.117.201.120 (talk • contribs)

I tend to agree with you, but since I'm not from Long Island, I wouldn't know firsthand. If you think that the article is misleading, please be bold and feel free to edit it! -- Chabuk 19:23, 26 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This "Criticism" section did need to be reworded, but I agree with the criticisms of the show; basically, I didn't realise it was set on Long Island until I read that here. "Long Island is suburbia, the show is set in suburbia"....well, that's vague; the show presents it so poorly that it could be any American suburb (i.e. like Chicago on Married with Children). You can't just say "well it is an accurate version of Long Island, because Long Island is a suburb"....it could be a suburb of any major city in the Northeast, great lakes (like Home Improvement), or California; it's such a vague and innacurate portrayal that I literally had no idea what I saw looking at.

....I guess I could say that the big criticism can best be said as "They didn't research their stereotypes". That is, it's impossible to tell its set on Long Island because it is not an accurate gage of what LI is like and you get the feeling that whoever wrote this based it on vague memories of that Budafoco-whatever his name is guy from a while back. --->As for a "Long Island accent", there really isn't much of a distinct "Long Island accent" (I mean, you can tell the differences but it's not like making fun of an Italian accent or Staten Island accent, etc. it's not one of the more distinct regional accents); what this show did was give the father a...vaguely Brooklyn or Chicago-esque accent? It's like when one of your friends gets really drunk and does an unrecognizable accent, expects you to laugh, and then gets angry that you didn't realize that while they sounded like Cookie Monster, they were trying to sound like Super Mario's Italian accent. And this is apparently a major part of the "humor" on this show. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 130.64.137.195 (talk • contribs) 15:19, 3 December 2006 (UTC).[reply]

Series cancellation?

So I hear this show has been cancelled after just 3 episodes. Is there any truth in the October 2nd episode being it's last? -Buzda Oct 6 (6:56am)

They're not on next week (Oct 9); a movie is replacing them. But they are still listed on Fox's fall schedule page [1]. The Fox schedule always gets kind of confusing in October because they broadcast much of the baseball playoffs; I honestly wouldn't say "this show has been canceled" until it fails to be on in November. Izzycat 12:56, 6 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the debate was move. —Nightstallion (?) 10:33, 26 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Page move proposal

Is there any reason why this page uses (TV), rather than the standard (TV series) for disambiguation? I propose, for consistency's sake, that we move this to the War at Home (TV series). — EagleOne\^Talk 01:28, 2 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, I've listed this page at WP:RM. — EagleOne\^Talk 21:01, 21 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Voting

Add *Support or *Oppose followed by an optional one-sentence explanation, then sign your vote with ~~~~

Support --Lox (t,c) 21:43, 21 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Vegaswikian 02:36, 22 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Lol dont belive whats written on wikipedia everyone can edit this — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.137.185.3 (talk) 19:17, 24 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

Add any additional comments

Actually a vote will be starting soon on selecting (television series) or (TV series) as the standard. Don't know how that will go. Vegaswikian 00:00, 22 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks for the heads up. For those interested, the vote is being organized at Wikipedia:Naming conventions (television)/poll. — EagleOne\^Talk 17:27, 24 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  - Thank you Vegaswikian; I can't believe I didn't notice that when voting! And thank you for the link, EagleOne! --Lox (t,c) 20:28, 24 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  - Just to make it clear, the current poll is here, the link provided above gives a lot of interesting background reading though! --Lox (t,c) 20:39, 24 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  - My mistake, I provided a link to an archived page. I've updated the link above to point to the current poll. — EagleOne\^Talk 18:45, 25 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Question

why is this show so homophobic? I think that is poor. Who wants to here a father continually emasculate his son and act like a homophobic jerk

Is there a way that we can somehow add some stuff to the criticism section to the effect that this is the worst show ever produced, and that Michael Rappaport or whatever his name is should be tortured and then executed? Would I have to find a source to that effect or something? BarrettBrown 03:49, 19 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

When writing articles on WP, it's best to maintain a neutral point of view. However, if you were to add a quote (with a legitimate source) to the criticisms section, I imagine that would be a useful addition to the article. --Lox (t,c) 20:53, 24 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

1. Find more TV reviews in magaiznes and some such. 2. ???????? 3. Profit

shows creator is gay btw —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.243.65.90 (talk) 07:13, 25 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

TV series > film

Wouldn't more people be trying to reach this article (The War at Home (TV series)) than the one about the movie (The War at Home)? I suggest that this article be moved to just The War at Home, while the movie gets moved to something like The War at Home (film). --FlyingPenguins 05:15, 27 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

At the moment, yes, in reality, no, because this show won't last two more years and will be forgotten. Slots should probably go to things which'll be remembered long term. Harsh? Yes. But aside from Fox's notorious programming schedules, this show is almost universally condemned.J. M. 11:14, 21 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Um, please provide credible citations to any of the statements made in a Wikipedia article. Much of what seems to exist in this entry are personal opinions about a show that, like most good shows on Fox, will be killed.

Criticism and Controversy sections

Why does this article have a "Criticism" and a "Controversy" section, which contain information that more less duplicate each other? Or should I even ask, since this article is such a mess? 70.92.166.154 02:06, 17 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It seems someone was totally pissed off when they wrote it. A lot of it was nit-picking. They were basically attacking the show. I feel it must be cleaned up with 80% of it deleted

date rape

i see it says dave offered her 2 bottles of beer and some questionable asprin.. i think it is a bit extreme to see it as a date rape drug, after all you dont offer someone date rape. Surely the more sensible suspicion would be he offered her ecastcy?

Sorry, but that's a pretty dim question. The joke is that he offered her asprin, but it was actually Rohypnol or similar. Ecstacy can't be used as a date rape drug. NaiveAmoeba 23:50, 1 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

NPOV

At one point in the criticsm section, it says, and I quote:"Another criticism that should be noted is the show's lack of originality.". Now, don't get me wrong; I think the show, in one word, SUCKS. But to say it has a lack of originality, would that be a POV from someone else?

Leopard Gecko 00:16, 30 July 2006 (UTC)Leopard Gecko[reply]

I don't think this show sucks. I don't really like the typical overly manly father acting all homophobic though

The show isn't homophobic the character is.And even then, if youe thought your son was gay you might be a little concerned.It dosn't even mean that you're always homophobic.It's probably just showing how the father overeacts to things.And this show is funny. Dermo69 11:23, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Most likely the show is not homofobic due to the creators open sexuality. It only shows that he can poke fun at him self for comedic purposes.BaconSquishy 16:39, 31 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Correction. If you're homophobic which is ignorant, then you're worred if your kids are homosexual. I think the creator of this show is a real idiot if he is actually gay and making a show like this, which is often insulting towards homosexual people. Lonelyboy 06:56, 27 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Inaccuracies Section

"The thought of Dave not being allowed into a country club because he is Jewish is also unrealistic. Long Island has a very large Jewish population, and there are large Jewish populations in many affluent neighbourhoods in Nassau County, so it would be unlikely that such a country club would be able to exclude Jews."

Isn't the point of Dave not being allowed to join the country club as he is Jewish supposed to be parodic of the view that is often portrayed that country clubs only accept middle class white men, such as Dave, whereas this country club goes against the conventional view? I don't think it's supposed to be an accurate portrayal of country clubs and discrimination. I agree with the writers in the "criticism and controversy" section, this article does seem to be largely attacking the show. Inquisition 16:39, 27 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Open Line

The "Focus group controversy" section begins: "In September 2006, Open Line published a report . . ." Who or what is Open Line? I've never heard of it. Some context would be helpful. Pat Berry 15:49, 29 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Gay-positive efforts?

The article states how they did the storyline of Kenny coming out due to accusations of homophobia.

Uh, how about it's because show creator Rob Lotterstein is gay himself?? --DrBat 17:04, 10 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

no hope huh?

I really liked this show, no chance of it coming back, huh? Arthurian Legend 00:19, 12 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]